Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Carl Steele]

You've clearly not been on urban very long, but on this website you are expected to apply some critical thinking and yourself if a source you propose is a truly independent piece of research or merely the ramblings of the biased.

This site does not tolerate shit sources or batshittery on any subject. You have been warned.

Thanks again, in the future I'll stick to the Guardian.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Good heavens, did I make a mistake? I'll try to do better going forward.

It only takes a small amount of reading to discover it's a civil matter and not a criminal one. At least get the basics before waxing lyrical.

 

[Duncan2]

On the nonce being called out about not sweating and the pizza express alibi: I remember seeing this in the interview and thinking that whilst both seemed 'unlikely', they must be things he could get someone to back up or else he wouldn't have said them. There were rumours that 'the palace' and maybe some of his own advisers had warned against the interview. Even with that in mind it just seemed common sense that he wouldn't have put those 2 definite claims and pieces of evidence forward if they were going to crumble when challenged. You'd have thought he'd at least have a bent doctor and royal protection officers lined up to back his nonsense (nonce sense, naturally).

Did we ever get the final word on his interview preparation? Were the pizza express and non-sweat lies ever 'signed off' by a lawyer or one of his team? If not, the startling conclusion is that he was flying solo and, with all those professional liars available, he just decided to fashion his own lies? Well, that went well..

It was reported that after the interview he took Maitlis on a tour of the Palace.Recall thinking at the time that he clearly had little idea of the depth of the shit he was in.

 

[SpookyFrank]

He hanged himself.

Well, he died by hanging.

 

[Carl Steele]

It only takes a small amount of reading to discover it's a civil matter and not a criminal one. At least get the basics before waxing lyrical.

Were you ever a schoolteacher?

 

[danny la rouge]

It was reported that after the interview he took Maitlis on a tour of the Palace

I hadn’t heard that, but that sounds about right. Clearly he was thinking “nailed it” all the way round. What a fucking arrogant fucking entitled fucking dimwit.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Except for cycling, veganism and Cardiff City FC.

For more information please read the FAQs or re-read this post.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Were you ever a schoolteacher?

Nah, lowly skilled manual labour. But I can read.

 

[Orang Utan]

Well, he died by hanging.

dunno why even sensible people like yourself seem to subscribe to this conspiracy theory. surely occam's razor applies here?

 

[Carl Steele]

Nah, lowly skilled manual labour. But I can read.

I think you missed your vocation.

 

[8ball]

dunno why even sensible people like yourself seem to subscribe to this conspiracy theory. surely occam's razor applies here?

Which conditions determine whether or not Occam’s razor applies?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

dunno why even sensible people like yourself seem to subscribe to this conspiracy theory. surely occam's razor applies here?

If Epstein was murdered then it follows that Maxwell would have been similarly dispensed with. That she wasn't puts paid to that particular theory I think.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

dunno why even sensible people like yourself seem to subscribe to this conspiracy theory. surely occam's razor applies here?

if he'd had a razor, he might have cut the rope at the last minute. So no razor, no matter who it belonged to.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

There's typos and then there's making a typo that looks like the BBC is cementing it's establishment position and funding stream.

If it's down to a cock-up or a conspiracy theory, I was explaining how a cock-up is more likely, in that's it's much more likely that someone simply failed to pick up on the urgent need to change one word and update a script/article. If a script had been read before, if an article had been printed previously, or bits of an earlier script or article rehashed, it could've easily slipped through the net.

But what would I know? I mean, I've only done producer shifts for BBC television and radio news output, I've only worked as a copy editor/writer, assistant producer, producer and senior journalist in other television and radio newsrooms and live studios, and online and print operations.

 

[8ball]

If Epstein was murdered then it follows that Maxwell would have been similarly dispensed with. That she wasn't puts paid to that particular theory I think.

No, really doesn’t.
Pertains only to potential motive.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I think you missed your vocation.

Every man and his dog knows it's a civil suit. It's been mentioned enough on this very thread and in the press. Have you been living under a rock?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

No, really doesn’t.

Well lots of people were in on it then. Who gave the order?

 

[Orang Utan]

Which conditions determine whether or not Occam’s razor applies?

i dunno.
but surely it's so much more likely that a man facing decades in prison for crimes that would entail his solitary confinement until he died of natural causes, would rationally take his own life? West and Shipman did the same.

 

[SpookyFrank]

surely occam's razor applies here?

I don't know what happened to Epstein. Don't think it really matters at this point. What I do care about is the misuse of 'occam's razor' which pertains to scientific theories, not specific events.

 

[moochedit]

'Trueanon'? Nope, not clicking on that.

Was just thinking the same!

 

[Carl Steele]

Every man and his dog knows it's a civil suit. It's been mentioned enough on this very thread and in the press. Have you been living under a rock?

Please, just keep punishing me, until I beg for mercy. There are lots of things going on that I'm not following particularly closely. Maybe that's also true of you.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

If powerful people wanted Epstein's silence then it could have been achieved far easier prior to him being incarcerated and under guard.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If Epstein was murdered then it follows that Maxwell would have been similarly dispensed with. That she wasn't puts paid to that particular theory I think.

That doesn't follow at all.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

That doesn't follow at all.

Why not? If the reason was the fear he'd name names then surely the same applies?

 

[Iona56]

There is a desperate part off me that wants to see prince Andrew pay.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Why not? If the reason was the fear he'd name names then surely the same applies?

We should be wary of assuming the motives of killers who we're assuming don't exist.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

We should be wary of assuming the motives of killers who we're assuming don't exist.

Maybe they were trying to kill him and the pesky justice system got in the way? But fortunately they were mates with one of the guards.
I dunno. It's your bloody theory. Set out your stall.

 

[8ball]

Well lots of people were in on it then. Who gave the order?

Nope, doesn’t mean that at all.

 

[BigMoaner]

this new NYT article put most of the idea that he was murdered to bed for me, not that i even entertained it beyond being a possibility

Epstein’s Final Days: Celebrity Reminiscing and a Running Toilet (Published 2021)

Newly released records show the disgraced financier living a mundane existence in jail before his suicide, while also spinning deceptions until the very end.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Nope, doesn’t mean that at all.

Well give us something then. A 'theory' usually has some kind of narrative.