Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[danny la rouge]

In terms of the bizarre internal log of liz-world, she must be deeply worried about the future of the monarchy after she's gone. All those decades of 'duty' (yuk) gone up in smoke with the incoming self indulgence of charlie, along with this nonce.

I really hope she lives to see it crumble before her eyes.

 

[Pickman's model]

I really hope she lives to see it crumble before her eyes.

Turning to ashes in her mouth

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

she's done a shit job of keeping them in line in that case.

I’d say given their still enduring popularity -seemingly in spite of her children’s recent best efforts - she’s overseen a remarkably good PR job over the last 70 years.

 

[ruffneck23]

I’d say given their still enduring popularity -seemingly in spite of her children’s recent best efforts - she’s overseen a remarkably good PR job over the last 70 years.

It did go a bit wrong after Diana died though, she had to do a lot of work to get back in the good books.

 

[killer b]

I’d say given their still enduring popularity -seemingly in spite of her children’s recent best efforts - she’s overseen a remarkably good PR job over the last 70 years.

The British press do the job for her, she barely has to lift a finger.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The British press do the job for her, she barely has to lift a finger.

The press don’t do it on their own though. It’s all a two way process of favours and access, which she will have been very much part of over the years.

 

[maomao]

I’d say given their still enduring popularity -seemingly in spite of her children’s recent best efforts - she’s overseen a remarkably good PR job over the last 70 years.

It's been a tough struggle with only the entire British establishment and all the press supporting her.

 

[killer b]

The press don’t do it on their own though. It’s all a two way process of favours and access, which she will have been very much part of over the years.

Sure, but that's not exactly evidence of a brilliant PR mind at work is it? The press are totally dedicated to the preservation of her family's privileges, dropping them a few tidbits is basic self preservation. A tightly controlled PR operation would, for example, have stopped her husband being a massive open racist all those years. But they didn't, because they don't have a tightly controlled PR operation and they know the press will bat for them whatever.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Sure, but that's not exactly evidence of a brilliant PR mind at work is it? The press are totally dedicated to the preservation of her family's privileges, dropping them a few tidbits is basic self preservation. A tightly controlled PR operation would, for example, have stopped her husband being a massive open racist all those years. But they didn't, because they don't have a tightly controlled PR operation and they know the press will bat for them whatever.

Whether by accident or design I’d say her husbands gaffes over the years actually served them rather well.

 

[equationgirl]

Probably more useful to the plaintiff than the defendant!

Dammit, my brain has been fucking up words all day.

What I meant was the list of who papers were attempted or served on would be useful to the Guiffre legal team.

 

[killer b]

Whether by accident or design I’d say her husbands gaffes over the years actually served them rather well.

similar 'gaffes' by people who don't have the entire establishment batting for them have seen them hounded from public life. I wonder what the difference was?

 

[1927]

The agreement thing, his lawyers haven’t even seen it, it is not public and they have requested a copy from the court. In the meantime them saying it absolves him from his crimes is speculation on their part, as baseless as their claim that her claim is baseless…

So an agreement they haven't seen absolves Andy from liability for things he never did in the first place? Hmm, that seems like a dangerous stance to take, as its almost an admission that he has done something to be absolved of responsibility for!

 

[little_legs]

In terms of the bizarre internal log of liz-world, she must be deeply worried about the future of the monarchy after she's gone. All those decades of 'duty' (yuk) gone up in smoke with the incoming self indulgence of charlie, along with this nonce.

it's a shame he is not the eldest, King Nonce would be the best chance of a republic

 

[DaveCinzano]

it's a shame he is not the eldest, King Nonce would be the best chance of a republic

Still plenty of time for stuff about Louis' favourite mentee to surface

 

[Orang Utan]

The British press do the job for her, she barely has to lift a finger.

people seem to like her for some reason as if she’s different from the others. don’t quite get it

 

[SpookyFrank]

It's been a tough struggle with only the entire British establishment and all the press supporting her.

She's down to her last 35 castles too, poor mare.

 

[SpookyFrank]

it's a shame he is not the eldest, King Nonce would be the best chance of a republic

If King Nazi didn't do for them, nothing will

 

[Raheem]

people seem to like her for some reason as if she’s different from the others. don’t quite get it

People don't like her for her, they like her because she receives constant praise for vague things like her dignity and poise, and never ever receives public criticism. So, people like her because who doesn't?

 

[two sheds]

She also represents the majesty of Royalty. Someone I shared house with 30 years ago said he became a Royalist when he saw the Queen and Ronald Reagan share a podium together and saw the huge gulf between royalty and an elected leader.

A muppet and Ronald Reagan would have had the same effect, mind.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

They want to remarry... if the nonce stuff goes away

Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson 'keen to re-marry after sex abuse claims'

The Duke of York and his ex-wife divorced in 1996 but have always remained close friends and even live together. Sources claim the pair could reunite if he is able to move on from claims he sexually assaulted Virginia Giuffre when she was 17

www.mirror.co.uk

Hmmm... interesting.

As his spouse, (again), she couldn't be called on to testify against him, could she?

There might be strategic legal reasons as to why remarrying might be a good idea.

 

[krtek a houby]

The royals are evil scum but it's their supporters who help perpetuate their bloody reign. What's to be done about royalist enablers?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

people seem to like her for some reason as if she’s different from the others. don’t quite get it

Given she’s 95, for the vast majority of people (nearly everyone?) she’s always been there and managed to conduct herself in ways acceptable to most for an unelected leader and hasn’t plumbed the depths of her progeny.
More people than not accept this kind of ‘natural’ order and haven’t read Marx. Dunno, she’s liked though.

 

[Orang Utan]

i haven’t read Marx but can still see the obscenity of such people being in such a position of power and yet still being venerated for it

 

[xenon]

Some people just like the retarded Toytown fairy tale Sherard that is the bulwark of the British class system. many more don’t see a plausible alternative so don’t get exercised about it.

 

[xenon]

Most of the British public are Conservative, with a small C. The fucking dolts.

 

[krtek a houby]

Some people just like the retarded Toytown fairy tale Sherard that is the bulwark of the British class system. many more don’t see a plausible alternative so don’t get exercised about it.

"retarded"

 

[xenon]

In the proper sense of the word for fuck‘s sake.

 

[xenon]

as in having a royal family at the system that they represent, is a retardation on political and civic development. IMO.

 

[BillRiver]

In the proper sense of the word for fuck‘s sake.

What's that then?

And while we're at it, what is a Sherard?

 

[xenon]

Retarding, retrograde, might have been better words to use, quite possibly.