Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Athos]

If the US judgement goes against him that must surely open the door to a formal police enquiry (again) in the UK. If she was trafficked against her will and made to shag him, that is rape. If she were a willing partner shagging him for money, having it away with a prostitute who is under 18 is a crime in the UK....

I'm not sure what the legal position was at the time of the alleged offence. What section of what act are you thinking of?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I'm not sure what the legal position was at the time of the alleged offence. What section of what act are you thinking of?

I understand the Sexual Offences Act 2003 which explicitly covers both scenarios won't count as he wasn't sweating in Tramp in 2001. But I am pretty sure that going with a prostitute who was under 18 was an offence before then, (would need to dig out old laws and really can't be fucked). And having sex with someone against their will was very much an offence prior to 2003...

 

[bluescreen]

It's not impossible to have a settlement agreement that includes all claims against any party relating to the same facts/allegations. And quite likely that Epstein would've sought to protect Maxwell that way. Andrew might just be able to bring himself within that protection, even if not named. How shit does that look, though? You can't sue me, because my nonce friend paid you off.

Yes, but how under contract law is it enforceable by someone who wasn't actually a party to it?

 

[Athos]

I understand the Sexual Offences Act 2003 which explicitly covers both scenarios won't count as he wasn't sweating in Tramp in 2001. But I am pretty sure that going with a prostitute who was under 18 was an offence before then, (would need to dig out old laws and really can't be fucked). And having sex with someone against their will was very much an offence prior to 2003...

I'm not sure on the under 18 prostitute part. And, I suspect that there's a subjective element of the consent issue i.e. whether someone had a reasonable belief in consent. Basically, I think they'll be enough wriggle room for him to evade a criminal prosecution. Sadly.

 

[Athos]

Yes, but how under contract law is it enforceable by someone who wasn't actually a party to it?

I'd have to look into the 'privity of contact' issue, but I'm pretty sure settlements are covered by Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999, now.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Fairly confident that at some point he will claim that he stands under that Magna Carta gives him droit de seigneur

 

[bluescreen]

I'd have to look into the 'privity of contact' issue, but I'm pretty sure settlements are covered by Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999, now.

Good point re UK law - but in the USA?

 

[Athos]

Good point re UK law - but in the USA?

I think privity is even weaker there.

 

[danny la rouge]

Fairly confident that at some point he will claim that he stands under that Magna Carta gives him droit de seigneur

He’s definitely got something to do with barons.

 

[Wilf]

He probably paid in maundy money - no paper trail

Pauper trail, shurely?

 

[SpookyFrank]

what number is he in line to the throne?

Dunno actually. Depends if Harry and his kids Cletus and Susie-Lee are still on the team sheet

 

[danny la rouge]

what number is he in line to the throne?

Currently 9th apparently.

 

[steveseagull]

 

[Santino]

Currently 9th apparently.

Your encyclopedic knowledge of royal matters is an inspiration to us all, Danny.

 

[danny la rouge]

Your encyclopedic knowledge of royal matters is an inspiration to us all, Danny.

Know your enemy. Or at least be able to look up Wikipedia.

 

[steveseagull]

They want to remarry... if the nonce stuff goes away

Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson 'keen to re-marry after sex abuse claims'

The Duke of York and his ex-wife divorced in 1996 but have always remained close friends and even live together. Sources claim the pair could reunite if he is able to move on from claims he sexually assaulted Virginia Giuffre when she was 17

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Pickman's model]

9 - fairly low down in the grand scheme of things now, as it goes along the line of first child (or until recently first son), then children of first child, so old big ears is next, then william, then william's brats, then harry, then harry's brats, then the sweatless wonder.

the change from first son to first child wasn't retrospective, so anne (who's second child of HMtQ) is still after Edward (and his brats)

more here

pity, really - he's an even bigger advert for the republic than jug ears...

Know your enemy. Or at least be able to look up Wikipedia.

Or read the thread

 

[danny la rouge]

Or read the thread

Oh Christ no. Pick a few posts and argue with those.

 

[Wilf]

They want to remarry... if the nonce stuff goes away

Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson 'keen to re-marry after sex abuse claims'

The Duke of York and his ex-wife divorced in 1996 but have always remained close friends and even live together. Sources claim the pair could reunite if he is able to move on from claims he sexually assaulted Virginia Giuffre when she was 17

www.mirror.co.uk

"If any of you know cause or just impediment, why these two persons should not be joined together in holy Matrimony, ye are to declare it"
- Well, yeah, he's a nonce.

 

[Wilf]

There's an interesting question for the royal protection officers, or whatever group of plod defend the beast in his lair: if the papers weren't served, where are they now? Did they bin them?

 

[Pickman's model]

There's an interesting question for the royal protection officers, or whatever group of plod defend the beast in his lair: if the papers weren't served, where are they now? Did they bin them?

Rumour has it they reached the prince who was apoplectic at their contents, dropping his trousers in front of his rpos and wiping his arse with the documents.

 

[kenny g]

It's funny how they claim to stay out of civil matters, but show up to assist bailiffs.

It is US civil claim so can basically piss off in terms of getting UK police assistance.

 

[Wilf]

'Letter for you milord'
- Cheers serf, what is it... [rip]... DOH!

 

[not-bono-ever]

This isn’t going to go away for him is it ?

 

[ruffneck23]

This isn’t going to go away for him is it ?

Good.

And Ferguson should dump him if she had any integrity, but she knows a payout when she sees one.

 

[Flavour]

This is so good. I think this is much much better than Harry fucking off in terms of the ongoing Royal Decline that poor Liz has had to oversee

 

[Wilf]

If 'Fergie' ever hosts another It's a Royal Knockout, the teams could compete to deliver a letter, say to a grumpy prince. Costume wise, they'd be dressed as disgraced Radio 1 presenters, climbing over polystyrene walls and doing battle with servants armed with shotguns ('it was just a shooting party'). Stuart Hall is now free to do the voiceover. Due to Brexit, the winners won't be competing in Je Sans Frontier.

 

[Pickman's model]

If 'Fergie' ever hosts another It's a Royal Knockout, the teams could compete to deliver a letter, say to a grumpy prince. Costume wise, they'd be dressed as disgraced Radio 1 presenters, climbing over polystyrene walls and doing battle with servants armed with shotguns ('it was just a shooting party'). Stuart Hall is now free to do the voiceover. Due to Brexit, the winners won't be competing in Je Sans Frontier.

Jeux sans frontieres.

Je means i

 

[Pickman's model]

This is so good. I think this is much much better than Harry fucking off in terms of the ongoing Royal Decline that poor Liz has had to oversee

Thats because there's a new scriptwriter

 

[danny la rouge]

Jeux sans frontieres.

Je means i

Je suis un beignet