Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Thing is, we've got a real-life conspiracy right here. Why try to make another one up? 
I'm certainly no expert in US law but this specific lawsuit, as far as I understand it, is trying to tease more disclosure from the plea bargain, which is largely confidential.
The point being is that the bargain part is that you, the accused, deny or limit your liability on some charges in exchange for admitting or offering information on others with the rest remaining confidential.
The current claimants/plaintiffs are seeking greater disclosure of the underlying documents that the bargain rests upon on the basis that their fundamental/statutory(?) rights were infringed by the prosecutor's decision to settle.
The overall point being is that the idea that anyone knows whether anyone has any kind of immunity from prosecution by any body, be it Prince Andrew or anyone else, is absurd unless you are a party to the bargain because it is necessarily a confidential contract.
In other words, the Times, unless they have deep insider info, are peddling pure speculation - not that the press has ever done that for sure, of course...
ruffneck23
front left
i wasn't trying to , just reinforce the one thats happening , oh well 
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Having a chinwag after Epstein's conviction. A true, true friend.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Shit. I've just realised that I've spent the afternoon shuffling around Croydon dressed like an (alleged) royal paedo.
elbows
Well-Known Member
When considering agenda etc, keep in mind that the Fail have been interested in this story before, they covered it in 2011 and probably even earlier. Not got link handy, but I posted it earlier in the thread.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
now imagine the fence 20' taller and both men in orange jumpsuits and you'll have an inkling of the future for andrew mountbatten-windsor.
youngian
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nce-Andrew-sex-slave-drama-telling-truth.html
That's more than Argentinian fighter pilots were paid when they were ordered to blow up Prince Andrew's chopper
That's more than Argentinian fighter pilots were paid when they were ordered to blow up Prince Andrew's chopper
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
pity they didn't get the parasite in '82
Zabo
Well-Known Member
They keep mentioning lots of photographs? Pure speculation but will any of them ever surface?
"Andrew was photographed surrounded by topless women during one holiday with them in Thailand"
"Miss Roberts eventually would learn that she, too, was being photographed by hidden cameras."
"Andrew was photographed surrounded by topless women during one holiday with them in Thailand"
"Miss Roberts eventually would learn that she, too, was being photographed by hidden cameras."
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
elbows
Well-Known Member
The Mirror uses a 2011 National Enquirer interview to add some salacious detail:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-andrew-underage-sex-slave-4915304
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-andrew-underage-sex-slave-4915304
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
but what do you think?
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
It's possible for someone to be a minor but over the age of consent in many jurisdictions (eg UK). Isn't the term 'minor' here tantamount to admitting that if minors were involved, they were not underage ones?
elbows
Well-Known Member
That I can think more freely than I can type due to our amazing libel system.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Dershowitz has a sterling record for finding shit on people.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Named in tonight's, latest palace denial...they re seriously rattled...The woman at the heart of this story had better be ready for some shit being thrown at her. Dershovitz + the royals, quite a formidable team.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, they had to make 2 denials in 2 hours.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I suspect they have been forced into being more specific than they normally are - as you say, naming her rather than just the usual dry 'allegations are without foundation'. Logically, that draws them a little closer to the next question: 'so, are you denying that he met her on the 3 occasions she mentions' [well, further 2 given that he clearly met her on one occasion]. But of course they won't have to get drawn into those questions, they won't get doorstepped, they'll still have a protective layer around them. That's why we are typing on threads about people like him rather than seeing people like him doing time.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Well, they would say that, wouldn't they?
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Some Dershowitz Wikiquotes:
When Epstein was facing the music back in 2007
Lovely people. Especially the notion that by paying your victims you somehow make it all right for them and absolve yourself of any wrong.
Prof. Dershowitz has previous in responding to accusation with attack. Some years ago, he was accused by Norman Finkelstein of plagiarism in his book The Case for Israel. The case was widely reported, and it ended with Finkelstein losing tenure at his university, apparently as a result of complaints lodged by Dershowitz. Counterpunch has a long and exhaustive article examining the details, which concludes
http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/02/11/the-case-against-alan-dershowitz/
When Epstein was facing the music back in 2007
This lengthy New York Magazine article gives an insight into the lifestyle and assumptions of Epstein and his circle.
Lovely people. Especially the notion that by paying your victims you somehow make it all right for them and absolve yourself of any wrong.
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