Political polling
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newbie
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the overriding impression of May in the last week is far from strong or stable
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Newsnight have resorted to Charles Clark to declare that Corbyn is "quite simply wrong".
not-bono-ever
meh
so any clue as to what the tory filth have lined up as a killer below the belt punch for the last week ?
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
The cynical and pragmatic campaigners for Labour should go hard on cuts to police numbers and the dementia tax.
The latter will continue to piss off those it first pissed off, and the former will catch those who care about security and usually turn to the tories to be hard on that sort of thing.
Interesting times, indeed.
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The latter will continue to piss off those it first pissed off, and the former will catch those who care about security and usually turn to the tories to be hard on that sort of thing.
Interesting times, indeed.
A person on the internet just posted this in response:
newbie
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about anything in particular or just in general? The standard today quoted Glenda Jackson dissing Corbyn and praising May for being a grown-up. drip drip drip...
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Are you seriously suggesting that after a major international incident, something that he is bound to the questioned on, something that the Tories will use to their advantage that his first post-incident speech should be about something else?
Utter fucking madness, he'd be crucified. Yes it probably would be to Labour's advantage if the rest of the campaign was focused on domestic stuff but they can't simply bury their head in the ground and pretend this week didn't happen. They might screw it up (though like ItWillNeverWorks say's I don't necessarily think an anti-Trump/anti-Saudi message would play badly) but knowing their weakness on this issue and how the Tories will attack them they have to address the issue.
The best thing for them is to get this over and then move the campaign back to domestic stuff for the last week/week and a half.
newbie
undisambiguated
purely policy based campigning lets her off the hook. She's chosen her campaign slogan carefully, let it haunt her. I got phone polled by Populus today, one of the questions was "which leader can provide strong and stable government?" Oh, how I laughed, and got the interviewer to crack up too. She is so vulnerable to people repeating strong and stable / weak and wobbly.
She's not fit to be prime minister, she's buckled under pressure.
say it loud, say it often.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Absolutely. I'm sure we can all agree I'm doing my part this evening by using the bbcqt hashtag to repeatedly tell everyone she's not strong and stable but weak and dangerous (focusing on police cuts). I'm certain I'll personally swing at least another couple of points for labour
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
When did you give up any politics beyond Labour?
Perfect example of why people should not join the LP.
Perfect example of why people should not join the LP.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Pretty much everything, I guess...but specifically to draw any correlation between UK foreign policy and U.K. Based terrorism.
It's a pretty busy time for the Labour Party specifically right now, to be fair.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
So that means you have to put Labour before labour, and give up any politics beyond making sure the LP gets into power?
Again a prefect example of the reason why people should not join the LP.
Again a prefect example of the reason why people should not join the LP.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
In the latest Yougov poll taking all responses, labour are only 2% behind the tories on 30% to 32%, with 15% don't knows, and of those don't knows 18% are now most likely to vote labour vs 16% for Tory, whereas last week more were likely to vote Tory than Labour.
There's also a firming up of the Labour vote's determination to vote, with 0% of their voters saying their likelihood to vote is between 0-4, vs 3% of the Tory vote.
Also the under 25s vote is really firming up, now with 63% definitely planning to vote, compared to 55% in the 25 to 49 age range.
Only one poll, but it certainly looks a hell of a lot better than a couple of weeks back, and the momentum definitely seems to be with Labour.
There's also a firming up of the Labour vote's determination to vote, with 0% of their voters saying their likelihood to vote is between 0-4, vs 3% of the Tory vote.
Also the under 25s vote is really firming up, now with 63% definitely planning to vote, compared to 55% in the 25 to 49 age range.
Only one poll, but it certainly looks a hell of a lot better than a couple of weeks back, and the momentum definitely seems to be with Labour.
newbie
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do you really fear a Labour government more than a tory one?
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
I've done no such thing. I've criticised putting the Labour party before the working class.
You're as dishonest here as you were about the Glaberman quote.
You're as dishonest here as you were about the Glaberman quote.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
The monumentally cynical, off the scale thing for labour to do would be to wheel out Andy Burnham alongside Corbyn, in another week or so. Hope they don't, don't think they will, don't think either Corbyn or Burnham would do it. But it just sits there as a kind of horror scenario. Please don't.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
I didn't watch question time but looking at twitter it sounds like Burnham said that tired old line about the Muslim community needing to do more. From what I understand, the bomber was reported on 5 different occasions and no action was taken, so it seems ridiculous not to point that out all things considered.
newbie
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answer the question, preferably without personal insults. Which potential future government do you fear most, Labour or Conservative?
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Is that all you've got? Pathetic when did you stop hitting your wife bollocks. No actual attempt to deal with the political point I made.
How about you answer a question, are you a member of the LP?
How about you answer a question, are you a member of the LP?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Maybe the political class weren't so keen for folk to dwell on the question of why nothing was done with the intel.
newbie
undisambiguated
what, you're not prepared to answer a straight question? It's pretty simple you know, which government do you fear least?
No.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Just watching on catch-up and a Muslim woman in the audience did make the point that this bomber was reported.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
When did you stop hitting your wife newbie? It's a straight question.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
That's both a genuine and equally predictable line. But I just hope that however Corbyn manages to push this election he keeps his principles in tact. I don't actually agree with a good few of his principles or his overall belief in the British state, but most of all I hope he resists temptation. There's actually scope for a bit of Corbynising at the moment - and that might be behind the 5% gap, a sense that his quieter clichés are better than May's squawkish clichés. But then thinking about how any 'message' plays out for votes is a bit yuky.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
So are you still hitting your wife?
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