Indeed. Churchill was an even bigger monster.
PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat
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LeytonCatLady
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LeytonCatLady
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He's not just an arsehole, he's a gaping crusty arsehole. With haemmorhoids.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Hardly surprising that the Mail has gone with that sort of headline, interestedly the group's other two national papers have been a bit more realistic about his performance.
andysays
Love and solidarity
I may have mentioned this before, but there's a fat ginger tomcat near me called Boris.
Write your own punch line...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
May
Boris was as agile as an arthritic abcessed aardvark
Lorca
Call in Sick Tomorrow
I just hope Amanda platell survived her ordeal tbh
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Lurdan
old wave
Telegraph front page is interesting.
Immediately under the news report of yesterday's events is this piece by the papers Associate Editor
The cult of Boris Johnson – and his Brexit dream – are imploding (archived)
Of course, while it may be relegated to page 17, there is still space for some Great Realignment raving from Allister Heath
The Brexit revolt against the Remain establishment has only just begun (archived)
Immediately under the news report of yesterday's events is this piece by the papers Associate Editor
The cult of Boris Johnson – and his Brexit dream – are imploding (archived)
Of course, while it may be relegated to page 17, there is still space for some Great Realignment raving from Allister Heath
The Brexit revolt against the Remain establishment has only just begun (archived)
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Interesting poll from YouGov, only 13% of voters think he's honest, and even amongst Tory voters only 25% thinks he's honest.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Only 13%, 25%? That's an astonishingly high number
magneze
🎧
Animals without a brain still form associative memories
Cnidarians like anemones and corals have a nerve net, but that seems to be enough.
arstechnica.com
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
What do you have against these creatures that you'd associate them with the unspeakable Johnson?
Animals without a brain still form associative memories
Cnidarians like anemones and corals have a nerve net, but that seems to be enough.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
I disagree, most of those voting 'honest' are Tory voters, I suspect a lot of those don't actually believe he's honest, they are only going with that option because they are deluded enough to be believe he can still be an election winner, and probably always will.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
It'd be interesting to have had a followup question: "...and does it matter?". Because I bet a lot of people who voted for him don't care that he's a liar.
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
I suspect the same, they see him as an election winner, that's all that matters to them, and therefore they don't care if he's a liar.
bimble
floofy
Like with trump-fans, i think some of the appeal of the man is exactly the fact that he's a liar (and all round general cad and bounder whatever) a morally bankrupt entirely self serving individual, that is the attraction, its a feature not a bug, the heroic level of not giving a fuck and getting away with it is the thing people admire because they wish they could do the same.
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LeytonCatLady
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Birth control to Ginger Tom!
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
Berlusconi had the same appeal; I reckon he was the pioneer of this style of politician. In broader terms it speaks of a widespread disenchantment with politics & politicians (“they’re all the same”; “they’re all on the take” “they’re all liars”) so that an openly mendacious & self-serving character is seen in a positive light - “at least he’s honest about it”
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
You'd think they'd have been able to find a pic of Harman looking mildly irritated at least to go with that headline wouldn't you.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Kind of fun but that question is nevertheless mind-bogglingly stupid. What does “honest” mean as applied in an essentialised, context-free way to a human being? Are you “honest”? If you think so, what was the basis on which you came to that conclusion? Does it mean you never lie, for example?
JimW
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Eh? Seems a reasonable if broad brush measure, not duplicitous by and large. Even without context there's people who mostly are and those who aren't, enough so to form a judgement on their suitability for a job where that matters, at least.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
I don’t buy it. Who would self-classify as “dishonest”? Nobody, because people represent reality as they perceive it. We always think we’re the honest one. Others — even all others — may disagree with our representations, but that’s a contextual statement about epistemology, not an essentialist characteristic of the individual.
Now, that’s not to say that people won’t make such a classification, to characterise an individual as “dishonest”, because (particularly western) people have atomised, essentialised models of the self that are consistent with the idea of static, context-free “traits”. But I don’t have to endorse that mode of self-representation.
JimW
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But it's not about self classification. I think most of us can simultaneously hold the notions of the ultimate mystery of the the human heart and the practical worth of judgements about a person's likely behaviour.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Well, I think Johnson is an entirely honest individual. He lives truly and authentically according to the world as he understands it. What could be more honest than that? He’s not done a single thing in government that is unexpected or against his past behaviour. We knew exactly what we were getting and we got it.
JimW
支那暗杀团
And good luck to you. I think the people who find him not to be know what they mean by it as well and have been proved right.
If I did have to take a personal punt I'd say he's not as you characterise however, I hope and expect there's some deep seated place where he suffers for betraying standards he imagines matter, much as he'd never let that stop him. Not that I know either, of course.
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
The poll wasnt asking people to classify themselves
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