Peaches Geldof is dead, age 25

[girasol]

The DM is having a feast today Poor family.

 

[Corax]

They were ordered to cry though and if they didnt cry hard enough they were likely to be fed to rabid dogs ....or be shot...or end up in a concentration camp.

Or forced to have a bowl haircut.

Cos that's what happens in North Korea isn't it. All. The. Time.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

The DM is having a feast today Poor family.

the media are truly miserable cunts....cant stand their constant in your face display of people's misfortune...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Or forced to have a bowl haircut.

Cos that's what happens in North Korea isn't it. All. The. Time.

Well, reports from defectors have said that you were in serious trouble if you did not cry your eyes out in public when Kim Yong-il died.

This is a country where every home had to by law maintain a wall with photos of the two first Kims on it.

 

[Corax]

This was happening exactly the same time some of us (includimg Derek) were in the Duke of Edinburgh for our pre-Xmas drink -- I didn't believe it at the time (I admit I thought the rumours were being exaggerated, and I saw no sign of it when I went to get the bus) but turns out to be true.

Nothing to add to JWH's and hatboy's reactions.

Sure. But that's not the same as repeating as fact the 'fed to rabid dogs' bullshit.

 

[phildwyer]

So what gives you the right to call people dickhead?

You're right, I shouldn't have called him a dickhead. Apologies for my intemperance.

I do however believe there was something rum about him. Something not quite kosher. A touch of suspicion attached itself to him in my eyes.

And so he has now been banned--permanently, irrevocably and for good. There are no circumstances under which I will reconsider. Moreover I believe that his ban is for the best, really, and that he will probably thank us later.

But in any case, he's banned. That's the reality, and no amount of hand-wringing can change it.

 

[goldenecitrone]

They were ordered to cry though and if they didnt cry hard enough they were likely to be fed to rabid dogs ....or be shot...or end up in a concentration camp.

In Iran? I don't think so.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

In Iran? I don't think so.

No .. north korea.

 

[goldenecitrone]

No .. north korea.

Ayatollah Khomeini was Iranian, not North Korean, you dunce.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

Sure. But that's not the same as repeating as fact the 'fed to rabid dogs' bullshit.

What do you think happened new boy's uncle?

Sure. But that's not the same as repeating as fact the 'fed to rabid dogs' bullshit.

It's called "quan jue". Execution by dogs.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

Ayatollah Khomeini was Iranian, not North Korean, you dunce.

I was talking about North Korea ...
But you knew that too....

 

[Corax]

What do you think happened new boy's uncle?

Not that.

Fuckinell

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Not that.

Fuckinell

Who gives a shit about newboy's uncle? He was part of the problem. How about whole families being shipped off to the gulag? Three million starving to death in the 90s in a preventable famine. And yes, people have been executed for listening to foreign media.

A few people on here have been trying recently to downplay the disgusting nature of the North Korean regime. That's a really misguided thing to do.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

Who gives a shit about newboy's uncle? He was part of the problem. How about whole families being shipped off to the gulag? Three million starving to death in the 90s in a preventable famine. And yes, people have been executed for listening to foreign media.

A few people on here have been trying recently to downplay the disgusting nature of the North Korean regime. That's a really misguided thing to do.

Totally in agreement with you ....

 

[Corax]

Who gives a shit about newboy's uncle? He was part of the problem. How about whole families being shipped off to the gulag? Three million starving to death in the 90s in a preventable famine. And yes, people have been executed for listening to foreign media.

A few people on here have been trying recently to downplay the disgusting nature of the North Korean regime. That's a really misguided thing to do.

So what?

That has no bearing on bubblesmcgrath repeating fabricated bullshit, which originated from a Chinese version of The Onion, as if it's fact.

What you're talking about is the whole fucking point. There's plenty of genuine reasons for criticism of the regime, without adding in make-believe. Doing that is exactly what fuels the 'downplaying' you refer to, as it destroys the credibility of real reports.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What you're talking about is the whole fucking point. There's plenty of genuine reasons for criticism of the regime, without adding in make-believe. Doing that is exactly what fuels the 'downplaying' you refer to, as it destroys the credibility of real reports.

Right, well real reports stated that you were in deep shit if you did not mourn sufficiently hard after Kim Jong-il died. That is not from the Chinese version of The Onion.

The substance of what bg was saying is correct - you could end up being arrested for not mourning hard enough, and not just you but the whole of your family could be deported to a camp for it. According to defectors, people were disappeared for not wailing hard and long enough.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

So what?

That has no bearing on bubblesmcgrath repeating fabricated bullshit, which originated from a Chinese version of The Onion, as if it's fact.

What you're talking about is the whole fucking point. There's plenty of genuine reasons for criticism of the regime, without adding in make-believe. Doing that is exactly what fuels the 'downplaying' you refer to, as it destroys the credibility of real reports.

I think you have me mixed up with you ....

Or forced to have a bowl haircut.

Cos that's what happens in North Korea isn't it. All. The. Time.

As for my mention of NK..my point was made in relation to mass outpourings of grief. The people of NK were being forced to grieve....or suffer the consequences.

You may think "execution by dog" is bullshit...but the people of NK face terrors similar to it and far worse.

 

[Corax]

I think you have me mixed up with you ....





As for my mention of NK..my point was made in relation to mass outpourings of grief. The people of NK were being forced to grieve....or suffer the consequences.

You may think "execution by dog" is bullshit...but the people of NK face terrors similar to it and far worse.

You really don't stop delivering do you?

I'll repeat:

There's plenty of genuine reasons for criticism of the regime, without adding in make-believe. Doing that is exactly what fuels the 'downplaying' you refer to, as it destroys the credibility of real reports.

That's a good point actually Corax. I hadn't considered it like that. I'll check my sources more thoroughly before making a twat of my self again next time.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The people of NK were being forced to grieve....or suffer the consequences.

This is correct, though.

 

[Corax]

This is correct, though.

That's why it wasn't the point I disagreed with.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That's why it wasn't the point I disagreed with.

Ok, well it's the important bit for me. The precise nature of those consequences is a detail, imo - they were very bloody serious, life-ruining consequences, that's what is important.

I also think it is important to stress that North Koreans are not simply brainwashed fools, as some (not you) would characterise them.

 

[8ball]

...I incline strongly towards the view that addictive tendencies are very frequently passed from parents to children. This does not of course mean that they are inheritable in any biological sense, a proposition that I deplore.

Those little ribose-based cunts!

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Not that.

Fuckinell

It just wouldn't seem.... proper... would it?

I'll bet they killed him with a slowly-increasing heroin drip.

 

[LiamO]

This is a country where every home had to by law maintain a wall with photos of the two first Kims on it.

Sounds just like Ireland to me. In the 60's every Irish household - at home or abroad - was required to have the Pope and JFK on their wall of their living room ... on pain of social death

Delirium Tremens
Christy Moore

I dreamt a dream the other night I couldn’t sleep a wink
The rats were tryin’ to count the sheep and I was off the drink
There were footsteps in the parlour and voices on the stairs
I was climbin’ up the walls and movin’ round the chairs.
I looked out from under the blanket up at the fireplace.
The Pope and John F. Kennedy were starin’ in me face.*
Suddenly it dawned at me I was getting the old D.T.s
When the Child o’ Prague began to dance around the mantlepiece.

 

[Corax]

Gotta love a bit of Christy.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

You really don't stop delivering do you?

I'll repeat:

There's plenty of genuine reasons for criticism of the regime, without adding in make-believe. Doing that is exactly what fuels the 'downplaying' you refer to, as it destroys the credibility of real reports.

That's a good point actually Corax. I hadn't considered it like that. I'll check my sources more thoroughly before making a twat of my self again next time.

Yes...and if you read my initial post you'd have seen that I was referring to the enforced grieving under pain of arrest etc.

Do you think the NK regime incapable of extremes of execution because ... you read it somewhere? I think the NK regime is capable of perpetrating every atrocity known to man on their own people.....

Sounds just like Ireland to me. In the 60's every Irish household - at home or abroad - was required to have the Pope and JFK on their wall of their living room ... on pain of social death

Delirium Tremens
Christy Moore

I dreamt a dream the other night I couldn’t sleep a wink
The rats were tryin’ to count the sheep and I was off the drink
There were footsteps in the parlour and voices on the stairs
I was climbin’ up the walls and movin’ round the chairs.
I looked out from under the blanket up at the fireplace.
The Pope and John F. Kennedy were starin’ in me face.*
Suddenly it dawned at me I was getting the old D.T.s
When the Child o’ Prague began to dance around the mantlepiece.

Yeah he he....
.... thankfully that's not happening here anymore.

Many societies have photos of their "leaders" or indeed monarchy in triplicate in homes...

I believe there are people in the some countries who have plates, mugs, cups etc emblazoned with royal family members in their varying degrees of decrepitude.
Thankfully the Bertie Ahern and Enda Kenny mugs never took off over here.

 

[equationgirl]

They look pretty upset to me.

There's almost a competition to see who can show the most grief because if you don't show the right amount you may find yourself in a re-education camp.

 

[equationgirl]

Who gives a shit about newboy's uncle? He was part of the problem. How about whole families being shipped off to the gulag? Three million starving to death in the 90s in a preventable famine. And yes, people have been executed for listening to foreign media.

A few people on here have been trying recently to downplay the disgusting nature of the North Korean regime. That's a really misguided thing to do.

Three generations of families are shipped out iirc - grandparents, parents and children.

 

[goldenecitrone]

There's almost a competition to see who can show the most grief because if you don't show the right amount you may find yourself in a re-education camp.

At the Ayatollah's funeral? I doubt it.

 

[Corax]

Do you think the NK regime incapable of extremes of execution because ... you read it somewhere? I think the NK regime is capable of perpetrating every atrocity known to man on their own people.....

What sly misrepresentation. You disingenuous cunt.

You stated as fact something that is utter bullishit. A false statement that damages the credibility of genuine arguments. And you've not even got the self-respect to simply hold your hands up to it, you have to drag it out into this instead.

Go on, send out another mass mailing accusing people of harassment.