Maybe you're just being willfully obtuse then. It's quite simple: there's nothing wrong with using strong terms to describe pernicious delusions.
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Maybe you're just being willfully obtuse then. It's quite simple: there's nothing wrong with using strong terms to describe pernicious delusions.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
you sound like someone on match of the day.Going back to the thread topic....I'm quite shocked the verdict is an overdose. A tragic accident. And while she was obviously crazy to take gear when she has kids, I won't condemn her...at the end of the day, a young woman has died, leaving many loved ones behind her.
So you think people are becoming more emphatic? You do not acknowledge the death of affect? You perceive no coarsening of public discourse? You don't find the cult of celebrity a teeny bit disturbing?
If all that is true, you must live on the moon.
weltweit summed it up better in his post after mine, if that makes you feel better....
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sometimes i go through phases where i can't read through a paper without getting all emotional about one story or another... usually it is involving total unknown people, occasionally it happens to be someone famous. sometimes i get emotional over something in a film or book, and that is just FICTION! I don't think that makes me (all that) emotionally stunted.... or emotionally well-developed either. it is just a thing that humans have always done, otherwise why would tragic theatre and stuff exist.
agreed, doesn't change a thing.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I do not acknowledge the death of affect, no. Yes, I do dislike the cult of celebrity, and yes I find it disturbing sometimes, although it's something I happily ignore most of the time. Like when Diana died - I imposed a total media blackout on myself for a couple of weeks. Job done.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
There is when they're aimed at the victims of the pernicious capitalist process. And what's with all that bullshit about having licence to do so?
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
We were away when Michael Jackson carked it - perfect. I heard one song of his when I happened to be in a paper shop somewhere and that was it. I was in Italy, working, the day after Diana died, it was crazy, we had people offering us condolences and hugging us, I mean, WTF?, infact even more WTF when you consider I was the only Brit - my colleagues were German and Polish. Then we watched the funeral in our hotel room, hammered on wine and my German colleague made up hilarious alternate lyrics to Eltons candle in the wind.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The one that mystified me was the Queen Mum. I was working in the Festival Hall at the time, and the end of the queue to file past her body (in Westminster Abbey, I think) was just outside. The wait was something like ten or twelve hours, and there were whole families there with young kids. Very, very, very odd.
I got lots of reading done when Diana died. It was quite good for me.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
So, Beatlemania, what was that?
Emperor worship in Japan, what was that?
There have been versions of celebrity-worship in different times and places. Sorry phil, but the more I think about your theory, the more ridiculous it becomes.
Emperor worship in Japan, what was that?
There have been versions of celebrity-worship in different times and places. Sorry phil, but the more I think about your theory, the more ridiculous it becomes.
UrbaneFox
They've doubled in price
Have you told this to the people who publish the DSM?
*shrug* It's just another variation on his favourite metatheme - the world's going to Hell in a handcart. This in spite of even the Ancient Greeks being certain that each generation was worse and that the world was in decline.
For that theory to be hold water now, either we've been falling almost forever or the days of homo erectus were paradisical.
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
Doesn't stop people trying to monetise it.
I remember when Di died and Dodi died (dey did doh, didn't dey).
me and Missus LiamO were down in Dublin for an all-Ireland semi-final (Mayo Vs Offally).
We were staying in a wee B&b and that morning the landlady, a little old kerry woman, came in with the breakfast saying 'Isn't it terrible news?'
'What'
'Diana is dead'
'Diana who?'
'Princess Diana. I'll bring in the radio so ye can listen to it all'.
She duly did so and RTÉ was wall to wall on how di died and dodi died (dey did doh, didn't dee?).
Two minutes later she landed in with the toast and was absolutely disgusted that I had changed to some daft Country station.
me and Missus LiamO were down in Dublin for an all-Ireland semi-final (Mayo Vs Offally).
We were staying in a wee B&b and that morning the landlady, a little old kerry woman, came in with the breakfast saying 'Isn't it terrible news?'
'What'
'Diana is dead'
'Diana who?'
'Princess Diana. I'll bring in the radio so ye can listen to it all'.
She duly did so and RTÉ was wall to wall on how di died and dodi died (dey did doh, didn't dee?).
Two minutes later she landed in with the toast and was absolutely disgusted that I had changed to some daft Country station.
I was making no comment about how the thread started, I was merely comparing the differing reactions to the two deaths.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
about as tragic as it comes. Just like a mate of mine back in the 90s, off the gear for ages due to having a little kid to be looking after, then sneaks off for his first hit in months and must have forgotten about having no tolerance to it or something.Going back to the thread topic....I'm quite shocked the verdict is an overdose. A tragic accident. And while she was obviously crazy to take gear when she has kids, I won't condemn her...at the end of the day, a young woman has died, leaving many loved ones behind her.
I was in New York City, around 3am, listening to WBAI, a black ultra-radical radio station. Suddenly the announcer goes: "Weeell now, seems we've just heard that Diana of England is dead... that's right, dead... but nobody here cares about that, so here's some more Public Enemy...."
That's the way to do it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i was very upset when kenneth williams, peter sellers, frankie howerd and peter cook died. not because i thought i knew them but because they'd made me laugh.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i thought you said above "all i'm going to say is ..." yet here you are showing that to be er misleading.
The ubiquity of the phenomenon confirms my thesis, as I would have thought obvious.
Well you were wrong, weren't you? Again. Read more slowly perhaps?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's not my reading that's at fault but your sorry penchant for posting and posting on a subject while under the misapprehension that your views are somehow privileged. so when it looks like your stream of piss is terminated, you can't imagine the feeling of relief people feel.
Ys it is.
You quoted me as saying something which I had not said. That shows either malice or stupidity. Or more likely your inimitable blend of both.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
good. so we're back where we were before.
Only because of your treachery, you treacher.
Get a room, the pair of you - preferably soundproofed, airtight, and with a nervous skunk in one corner of it.
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