Paul Embery

[Fedayn]

Anyone got a good run down of what Paul Embery the ex FBU National Exec member was supposed to have done to get barred from holding office for 2 years.
Some of the stuff he said was good, some was weird and some of the people he retweeted were certifiable bigots, racists and homophobes

Anyone got a decent precis of the events?

 

[Proper Tidy]

Anyone got a good run down of what Paul Embery the ex FBU National Exec member was supposed to have done to get barred from holding office for 2 years.
Some of the stuff he said was good, some was weird and some of the people he retweeted were certifiable bigots, racists and homophobes

Anyone got a decent precis of the events?

Think the official reason was speaking at the Leave means Leave demo. Was a recent thread on here which covered it in some detail.

 

[Pickman's model]

Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

 

[treelover]

Ged Dempsey, a key ally was on the Sky News papers review, sounded like Bob Crowe!

 

[Fedayn]

Ged Dempsey, a key ally was on the Sky News papers review, sounded like Bob Crowe!

Paul has some very un Bob Crow like allies too....

 

[sihhi]

There's bad blood there

 

[Proper Tidy]

There's bad blood there

The prick

 

[Serge Forward]

I just read some of the comments. It's like wading through a fucking sewer

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Wow, his Twitter has got even worse than the last time I looked at it.



"liberal cosmopolitans and crypto-Marxists"? Constantly saying "debate me", RTing Spiked and writing for Unherd? Think we know where this is going (has gone).

 

[Proper Tidy]

Assume be means Neil Lennon cos he's only about 35 and can't think all the trendy left kids today are sitting around doing acid to working class hero

 

[Smokeandsteam]

If only it was full of Marxists....

 

[rekil]

 

[Proper Tidy]

Christ

 

[butchersapron]

He is just eddie demspey without a union

 

[butchersapron]

Brothers. Twats. All that is wrong with labour.

 

[ska invita]

Assume be means Neil Lennon cos he's only about 35 and can't think all the trendy left kids today are sitting around doing acid to working class hero

I was thinking John Lennons Imagine (there's no countries etc).

 

[chilango]

He is just eddie demspey without a union

Until this post I though you were all talking about Dempsey!

 

[Fedayn]

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I was watching/listening to him being interviewed on a Trigger Nometry podcast yesterday and whilst not in agreement all the time it was interesting. This however is utterly pathetic.

 

[imposs1904]

Wow, his Twitter has got even worse than the last time I looked at it.

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Hating on the Trekkies? Bastard.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I think since his suspension he has moved firmly into the contrarian / voice of the PFWC position and that's actually been quite helpful in exposing how hollow it all is.

 

[ska invita]

I was thinking John Lennons Imagine (there's no countries etc).

as an aside

 

[Proper Tidy]

as an aside

Oh dear. Here was me mocking the stereotype of idealistic yoof in them german army coats trying to be john lennons

 

[The39thStep]

I think since his suspension he has moved firmly into the contrarian / voice of the PFWC position and that's actually been quite helpful in exposing how hollow it all is.

I thought his suspension was ridiculous tbh .I suppose its easy to view opinions on the left through a Trot/Stalinist type filter or what passes for the left these days but I think theres a place for those who dont fit that filter, some of his stuff is good imo and some stuff cringy. He's economically left and socially 'conservative' and his stuff on place, community, family hits the note.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I thought his suspension was ridiculous tbh .I suppose its easy to view opinions on the left through a Trot/Stalinist type filter or what passes for the left these days but I think theres a place for those who dont fit that filter, some of his stuff is good imo and some stuff cringy. He's economically left and socially 'conservative' and his stuff on place, community, family hits the note.

I'd have agreed with this a few years back but his trajectory over last two or three years, nah

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I thought his suspension was ridiculous tbh .I suppose its easy to view opinions on the left through a Trot/Stalinist type filter or what passes for the left these days but I think theres a place for those who dont fit that filter, some of his stuff is good imo and some stuff cringy. He's economically left and socially 'conservative' and his stuff on place, community, family hits the note.

I think I ended up following him a few years back because you mentoned him to be honest. And he has been interesting for sure but the signal to noise ratio has plummeted recently for me. I agree that the suspension was probably a bad idea but half of his posts these days are retweeting people who say it is terrible he's been suspended and the rest are a hodge podge of interesting / bobbins / increasingly tedious culture war stuff.

 

[chilango]

increasingly tedious culture war stuff.

This basically.

I really don't think a focus on deploying limited cultural signifiers of a working-class identity is the direction any of us should be going down right now.

 

[The39thStep]

I think I ended up following him a few years back because you mentoned him to be honest. And he has been interesting for sure but the signal to noise ratio has plummeted recently for me. I agree that the suspension was probably a bad idea but half of his posts these days are retweeting people who say it is terrible he's been suspended and the rest are a hodge podge of interesting / bobbins / increasingly tedious culture war stuff.

Thats true tbh

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I think I ended up following him a few years back because you mentoned him to be honest. And he has been interesting for sure but the signal to noise ratio has plummeted recently for me. I agree that the suspension was probably a bad idea but half of his posts these days are retweeting people who say it is terrible he's been suspended and the rest are a hodge podge of interesting / bobbins / increasingly tedious culture war stuff.

I agree with all of that. I wonder if his growing media ‘career’ demands he gets noticed and, also that he adopts increasingly reductionist (and increasingly shite) positions?

 

[Proper Tidy]

Basically everybody who enters the spiked orbit ends up like that. Except Kenan Malik, the one honourable exception. The rest are pricks.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Basically everybody who enters the spiked orbit ends up like that. Except Kenan Malik, the one honourable exception. The rest are pricks.

Is that where he’s gone? I thought he was in the LP still?

Agree on Malik. He’s produced some brilliant work of late, which is completely overlooked.