Paramilitary Style Group Protests In Luton
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Let me try and get some info together first - the UBA have been trying to organise these marches for a few years now - each one inevitably ending up with about 10 of them, and all going down the pub after half and hour to swap hoolie war stories. Obv this thing last week has put this sort of thing right into the public eye though. The far-right have already been talking of those organising these marches as "useful idiots" (in exactly those words) much as i/we predicted.
imo, thats no reason not to stand in solidarity with them if this looks like getting ugly
after trawling through the facebook page there dont seem to be any overt links with the fash yet, and it really does seem to be a bunch of kids arguing amongst themselves in textspeak - but its definitely worth monitoring
people on here have waited years for 'the youth' to get politically motivated, well now its happening, just not how many of us would have liked. But if the testerone fuelled groups of anti-fa and others turn up , etc, they could make it much worse, turning a whole generation who going by the posts are increasingly right wing, ('bring back capital punishment, etc) further way to the right and beyond.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
For the people of kuwait, you ignorant posturing cretin! EVERY indication is that they - to the last person - preferred being under the - relatively - benign emirate rule, than that of Kuwait.
And you have your facts almost TOTALLY wrong on the histories of Kuwait, Mesopotamia and The Ottoman state, there is a movement, supported by the majority of the people of present-day Kuwait, for their seperation that goes back to the 1700s.
The Ottomans put it under the administrative supervision of their 'man in Baghdad' (himself usually a turk) for their convenience, and the pressure foor independent Kuwait came from the Kuwaitis trhemselves. Saddam evidently agreed - he signed a treaty respecting Kuwaiti self-rule, in the 1990s.
And I haven't even mentioned the STAGGERING hypocrisy of you saying 'only the Iraqis and argentinian people have their right to remove the rulers of those countries' - whilst denying the same right, of self-determination,
to the falklanders and Kuwaitis.
Ahh, but that would ttop a good, anti-imperwialist thchoolboy posture, wouldn't it?
hombre is validad. que idiota para dio!
Your time in Argentina will translate that for you, no?
dylans
overlord of all acorns
With all respect. My recent posts were not really aimed at you. It was the take up of an ongoing argument with Dennisr.
I reserve the right to reply to any post aimed at me but other than that I am happy to drop all this bickering and get back to the real issue which is Luton.
im not sure we should get carried away, this doesnt seem to have the makings of a siginificant political youth movement, more a bunch of stroppy home counties teenagers
nightbreed
Im Bored
Have we sussed out yet who organised these demos?
I suspect the fash did but its not clear going by some of the anti NF placards. These demos are going to attract more and more fash as they go on yet we dont seem to be any nearer to working out who has organised them.
Is it just being done through faceook?
I suspect the fash did but its not clear going by some of the anti NF placards. These demos are going to attract more and more fash as they go on yet we dont seem to be any nearer to working out who has organised them.
Is it just being done through faceook?
Nigel
For A Degenerates' Workers State
Would elements of the left and "anti fascist" movement enter into dialogue with al-Muhajiroun and/or similar organisations or would they consider them too far off the mark for this too happen.
Elements of Anti Fascist movement and Anarchists are sympathetic and have dialogue with UBA perhaps an effective no platform policy can be attributed within their ranks!
Elements of Anti Fascist movement and Anarchists are sympathetic and have dialogue with UBA perhaps an effective no platform policy can be attributed within their ranks!
dennisr
the acceptable face
How magnanmous of you. Don't you mean you are happy to stop spouting one vicious, distorted, tedious lie after another?
You are a vicious evil cunt and have had nothing useful to say on Luton let alone enlighten any of us on any other question.
You've made a complete tit of yourself on these boards so far dylan and the very idea of you showing 'respect' for anyone has got to be a joke on your part.
You should apologise for at least some of the ludicrous lies you have made up on this thread. There are plenty of folk on these boards who would have no time for the Militant or SP - they would not come out with outright lies as you have though. You expose the bankruptcy of your tiny sects politics in doing so
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Please shut up with your nonsense nigel.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
sure you would, seeing as you were getting thoroughly pwned ON SUBSTANTIVE POINTS by me and dennisr!
dennisr
the acceptable face
yep, agree with that
just had another look at the facebook page, the organiser of this is a boxing enthusiast and studying law in the sixth form by the name of Franky Martin Payne
he hasnt posted on the facebook group since 31st March and doesnt mention it on his personal facebook page either, so it may well have died a death
i did spot this on his facebook page
he hasnt posted on the facebook group since 31st March and doesnt mention it on his personal facebook page either, so it may well have died a death
i did spot this on his facebook page
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
An argument in which you asserted inaccuracies and untruths.
Except tha the "real issue" to you obviously isn't Luton, but rather your "spin" on what happened.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Because "no platform" is so effective, isn't it?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Mind you, plenty of us who weren't members of SP or Militant (or any other grouplet) still took enough of an interest to keep up to date with the various policies of those groups, which is why I find dylans' (being charitable) "unique" take on history quite so annoying. It's history filtered through the perceptions of a particular political cult, and very obviously so.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Perhaps, but not a discourse you were really part of. Just your circle jerk buddy Dennisr. Not joined at the hip are you?
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Says a complete stranger to a complete stranger over the internet. How droll.
I must admit that insult has a ring to it. Must remember it for another time.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
get back to the OP.
Seconded.
Todays Morning Star coverage:
http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/index.php/britain/patriotic_protest_turns_into_racist_attack
Seconded.
Todays Morning Star coverage:
http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/index.php/britain/patriotic_protest_turns_into_racist_attack
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You still don't get it, do you?
If you talk shit you get called on it. You've talked shit, you're being called on it. No amount of flailing or petty name-calling on your part changes that fact.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Coming from you, who couldn't write his name in the dust of a Venetian blind.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
That would kind of miss the point that the OP referred to a particular representation of an event, and of the consequences of that, and that the "squabbling" is about the validity of the representations made of those events (and the veracity of some of the people making those representations).
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Sure but I think your wank Buddy can take care of himself. I don't think he really needs your help.
For the second time can we just drop this now and get back to the issue or do we have to go another round of "anti- imperialist struggles I have known and loved"?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Interesting.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
you really don't have an embarrassment thresold do you? you've been totally WHUPPED here, caught out on points of fact, of logic, of reason (hammered in EVERY way in fact, on every issue), and like the immature waste of human life you are, it's back to childish insults.
Still, if you crave that badly to look this stupid (and you do, trust me), 'tis your affairt
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