Why do the French protest/riot better than we do

[quiet guy]

Life goes on, all nonchalance:

When you need something to take the chill out of the air but don't want to use one of those patio gas burners

 

[ska invita]

France hasn't had a Thatcher. That matters.

Arguably they've got one right now, hence

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Aguably theyve got one right now, hence
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Yes, but the point about Thatcher is that she instigated a class war and then won it. Sarkozy in a feeble way tried it then backed down sharpish. We'll see what happens this time. Macron hasn't won yet.

 

[quiet guy]

He doesn't have a reelection to worry about so is going all out

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Life goes on, all nonchalance:

That looks like an ideal night out.

 

[The39thStep]

Arguably they've got one right now, hence
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[WhyLikeThis]

I would

 

[Sue]

disclaimer - I really dont know the answer, but ive got some impressions which are just impressions, might be bullshit

but maybe its
-france has yet to experience the legal crushing of its trade unions a la thatcher, so trade unions more effective, and virtuous circle so have more support
-a stronger organised left. theres a communist party festival that attracts nearly a million people in france Fête de l'Humanité - Wikipedia
-a less subservient relationship to the state. vive la republique attitude must be some kind of factor, cementing the role of people power in peoples minds
-these things have momentum and france hasnt lost it.

Let's not forget that union membership in France is v low. Like about 8% compared to about 23% in the UK. IME, it's more about people being prepared to walk out despite not being in a union rather than because they're in a union.

Trade Unions | Worker Participation

www.worker-participation.eu

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes, but the point about Thatcher is that she instigated a class war and then won it. Sarkozy in a feeble way tried it then backed down sharpish. We'll see what happens this time. Macron hasn't won yet.

Wasn't it marx who said the history of all hitherto societies is the history of class struggle? Thatcher didn't start the class war and she didn't win it. It is after all a rather larger and longer lasting feature of societies, from the dim and distant past to today

 

[8ball]

Life goes on, all nonchalance:

That can’t be great for the carbon credit balance.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That can’t be great for the carbon credit balance.

It's an excellent example of the efficient use of resources. Rioting and patio heating combined into a single carbon footprint.

 

[Tanya1982]

The don’t watch as much television. They aren’t pacified with Rue de la Coronation and France’s Got Talent.

 

[Raheem]

It's all to do with the black and white stripy tops.

 

[The39thStep]

I think being in the EU is a big factor

 

[_Russ_]

If the shoutball is on the telly you got no chance over here

 

[bcuster]

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

We are not like China when it comes to population control - our governments might collect disturbing amounts of data but they don't use it to crack down on dissent.

Erm, Spycops, spying on lots of different flavours of activists - animal rights, eco-activists, etc.

SPYCOPS the undercover political policing scandal.

SPYCOPS - the one-stop shop setting out the key issues at the heart of the undercover political policing scandal that first hit the news in 2011.

www.spycops.co.uk

Erm, more spycops, spying on the family of murdered Stephen Lawrence, y'know, rather than bringing his killers to justice, they spied on his family.

Stephen Lawrence police 'spy' prompts public inquiry

Revelations that a police officer spied on the family of Stephen Lawrence will lead to a judge-led public inquiry into undercover policing.

www.bbc.co.uk

Erm, trade union blacklisting.

Police spied on trade unionists for an illegal blacklist. We demand justice | David Smith

A disgraced undercover unit spied on union activists who were then refused jobs, writes Blacklist Support Group secretary Dave Smith

www.theguardian.com

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Middle aged white male revolutionaries init.

"Stick the kettle on love, us men have to plan reshaping society..."

Ah, the manarchists. Sitting around chatting shit about politics, meanwhile women do the work.

 

[Yossarian]

Erm, Spycops, spying on lots of different flavours of activists - animal rights, eco-activists, etc.

SPYCOPS the undercover political policing scandal.

SPYCOPS - the one-stop shop setting out the key issues at the heart of the undercover political policing scandal that first hit the news in 2011.

www.spycops.co.uk

Erm, more spycops, spying on the family of murdered Stephen Lawrence, y'know, rather than bringing his killers to justice, they spied on his family.

Stephen Lawrence police 'spy' prompts public inquiry

Revelations that a police officer spied on the family of Stephen Lawrence will lead to a judge-led public inquiry into undercover policing.

www.bbc.co.uk

Erm, trade union blacklisting.

Police spied on trade unionists for an illegal blacklist. We demand justice | David Smith

A disgraced undercover unit spied on union activists who were then refused jobs, writes Blacklist Support Group secretary Dave Smith

www.theguardian.com

Yeah, I phrased that very poorly, should have been more along the lines of "the UK collects data but it doesn't use it to ruthlessly crush all dissent like China does."

 

[PR1Berske]

Life goes on, all nonchalance:

See, this is why, so many cafes in the UK don't have licenses for outdoor seating.

 

[gentlegreen]

It probably explains why I can't appreciate French food and coffee...
Even when they aren't burning stuff, they're sucking on disgusting cigarettes ..