Papier Mache ... how do you do this?

[weltweit]

Sprog has to make a volcano this weekend and wants to do it with papier mache ..

I know paper is involved, and probably water, but what else?

 

[Santino]

mache

 

[weltweit]

mache

eh?

 

[QueenOfGoths]

wallpaper paste?

More info here

http://familycrafts.about.com/cs/papermache/a/051500pm.htm

 

[mack]

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Papier+Mache

 

[kittyP]

If you can get PVA glue from a craft shop then that is best but failing that, water and flour to make a thick paste.
You will need to make a frame for a volcano probably. If you do not have chicken wire (which you probably don't) get a small cardboard box (with hole cut in top for hole in volcano). Scrunch up balls of news paper and masking tape them around the box until you get vague shape you want.
Then dip strips of news paper in glue or paste and keep layering over the top to smoother over and give you a mountainous shape.
You may want to top off with a layer of white paper strips so its easier to paint.

If you wanna make an exploding one then I am not the person.

 

[kittyP]

If you can get your hands on any Modroc then that is amazing but its probably too short notice

 

[weltweit]

wallpaper paste?

More info here

http://familycrafts.about.com/cs/papermache/a/051500pm.htm

thanks for that link QueenOfGoths, it seems I may need wallpaper paste.

I am concered I may block up my pipes in the kitchen with excess paste ..

However I see that:

Paper mache paste is a liquid adhesive usually made using flour and water. It closely resembles wallpaper paste.

Perhaps I might follow that route ..

 

[Santino]

eh?

You were pronouncing it wrongly.

 

[weltweit]

If you can get PVA glue from a craft shop then that is best but failing that, water and flour to make a thick paste.
You will need to make a frame for a volcano probably. If you do not have chicken wire (which you probably don't) get a small cardboard box (with hole cut in top for hole in volcano). Scrunch up balls of news paper and masking tape them around the box until you get vague shape you want.

Hi kittyP.. I think we may go the flour and water route, not sure...

Yes, how to create the volcano. Sprog wants it split vertically down the middle and hinged so it can be openned. Personally I think hinging it is overkill, it will be hard enough to make it in two halves I think.

Then dip strips of news paper in glue or paste and keep layering over the top to smoother over and give you a mountainous shape.
You may want to top off with a layer of white paper strips so its easier to paint.

Aha, yes, paint.. we are going to need some for sure ..

If you wanna make an exploding one then I am not the person.

Yes spro wants to make it exploding. He says that with coca cola and what was it, baking soda the volcano will apparently explode. But what to keep the coca-cola in before it is mixed?

 

[weltweit]

You were pronouncing it wrongly.

Not according to the interweb

Paper Mache is one of the most versatile crafts around! There is no right or wrong way to do it. There is not even a right or wrong way to spell it - Paper Mache, Papier Mache?!

http://familycrafts.about.com/cs/papermache/a/051500pm.htm

 

[Pip]

Yes spro wants to make it exploding. He says that with coca cola and what was it, baking soda the volcano will apparently explode. But what to keep the coca-cola in before it is mixed?

Build it round a bottle of coke and and add mentos moments before you want it to explode. You can also do it with a bottle of vinegar (smaller if necessary), red food colouring for that lava effect , a funnel and bicarb. In fact this method would be my choice.

 

[kyser_soze]

Look what googling the words 'how to make papier maché' found!

http://www.papiermache.co.uk/tutorials/getting-started-with-papier-mache/

 

[weltweit]

Look what googling the words 'how to make papier maché' found!

http://www.papiermache.co.uk/tutorials/getting-started-with-papier-mache/

But if we all just googled everything, think how many fewer interesting threads there would be

Thanks for the link btw, off to look at it now.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

I am stuck at home with nowt to do so maybe I will make a papier mache cast of my body this afternoon. It could double as a slanket.

 

[Pip]

I am stuck at home with nowt to do so maybe I will make a papier mache cast of my body this afternoon. It could double as a slanket.

I'm gonna do an aliginate head cast this weekend

 

[QueenOfGoths]

I'm gonna do an aliginate head cast this weekend

Oooh that sounds exciting!

 

[weltweit]

Build it round a bottle of coke and and add mentos moments before you want it to explode. You can also do it with a bottle of vinegar (smaller if necessary), red food colouring for that lava effect , a funnel and bicarb. In fact this method would be my choice.

Building it around a coke bottle is certainly an idea, the only drawback is that it will dictate the height of the volcano as quite big, so the rest of it will be quite big, bigger than I had hoped ...

Vinegar and bicarb? interesting...

I imagine school might not be pleased with coca cola all over their desks and floor.. perhaps Vinegar might be a better idea..

 

[pennimania]

Papier mache takes a long time to dry - layers and a hairdryer are teh way to go.

 

[weltweit]

Papier mache takes a long time to dry - layers and a hairdryer are teh way to go.

hmm.. don't have a hair dryer...

 

[kyser_soze]

Building it around a coke bottle is certainly an idea, the only drawback is that it will dictate the height of the volcano as quite big, so the rest of it will be quite big, bigger than I had hoped ...

Vinegar and bicarb? interesting...

I imagine school might not be pleased with coca cola all over their desks and floor.. perhaps Vinegar might be a better idea..

Secure the coke bottle to a board using putty, then trail chicken wire down from the top of the bottle to make the basic volcano shape (if you want to make a caldera then make a bowl shape up from the mouth of the bottle, and then bend the wire down), then cover the wire in the maché, making it look like a volcano (check some images of volcanos for the textural stuff), then wait for it to dry, then paint in appropriate colours.

If you've got an airing cupboard you could use that to assist the drying process. If you don't want to make it too big, use a 1/1.5 ltr bottle instead of the big, tall 2ltr.

 

[weltweit]

Actually don't have lots of things that seem necessary..
A base of some kind - ideally hinged to open to show the inside of the volcano no idea how that is going to work...
flour
coca cola bottle or vinegar
baking soda
paints

I do have:
cardboard boxes
newspaper

 

[weepiper]

Build it round a jamjar instead of a coke bottle if that's going to be too big. Sit it on top of a radiator to dry it faster.

 

[weepiper]

Actually don't have lots of things that seem necessary..
A base of some kind - ideally hinged to open to show the inside of the volcano no idea how that is going to work...
flour
coca cola bottle or vinegar
baking soda
paints

I do have:
cardboard boxes
newspaper

this is why school homework projects are a pain in the ass.

 

[kyser_soze]

A base of some kind - ideally hinged to open to show the inside of the volcano no idea how that is going to work...

Instead of hinging the bottom, just make the chicken wire into a 'door' that swings open all the way down the side - just don't forget when you're laying the maché out that you need it to open up!

 

[weltweit]

Secure the coke bottle to a board using putty, then trail chicken wire down from the top of the bottle to make the basic volcano shape (if you want to make a caldera then make a bowl shape up from the mouth of the bottle, and then bend the wire down), then cover the wire in the maché, making it look like a volcano (check some images of volcanos for the textural stuff), then wait for it to dry, then paint in appropriate colours.

If you've got an airing cupboard you could use that to assist the drying process. If you don't want to make it too big, use a 1/1.5 ltr bottle instead of the big, tall 2ltr.

Hi kyser_soze, sounds like good advice. I will need some chicken wire ..

a caldera would be well cool ... have to think about that..

Can't get my mind around making it split in the middle .. a vertical section cutting right through the volcano. I suppose we might have vertical two pieces of cardboard and make one side of the volcano on one side, the other on the other ... then remove the cardboard assuming I had made it slippery enough for the mache not to stick to it..

 

[QueenOfGoths]

Actually don't have lots of things that seem necessary..
A base of some kind - ideally hinged to open to show the inside of the volcano no idea how that is going to work...
flour
coca cola bottle or vinegar
baking soda
paints

I do have:
cardboard boxes
newspaper

You may need to re-think the exploding aspect then....or go to the shops!

Or dress the sprog in something red and orange and get them to burst out of the cardboard box waving strips of cut up newspaper while shouting "I AM THE GOD OF THE VOLCANO: KNEEL BEFORE MY WRATH"!

 

[weltweit]

Build it round a jamjar instead of a coke bottle if that's going to be too big. Sit it on top of a radiator to dry it faster.

Good ideas, thanks

 

[weepiper]

You may need to re-think the exploding aspect then....or go to the shops!

Or dress the sprog in something red and orange and get them to burst out of the cardboard box waving strips of cut up newspaper while shouting "I AM THE GOD OF THE VOLCANO: KNEEL BEFORE MY WRATH"!

 

[weltweit]

this is why school homework projects are a pain in the ass.

You are telling me !!! I honestly could do without this at the moment

Instead of hinging the bottom, just make the chicken wire into a 'door' that swings open all the way down the side - just don't forget when you're laying the maché out that you need it to open up!

oh .. trying to visualise this..
Not completely sure what you mean
But making a bit of the volcano outside open yes I can see something in that ..