P&O Ferries sacks workers and docks ships

[Chz]

Fantastic. 800 workers sacked on the spot , by a multi million company , which the Tories knew about but kept silent , private security brought in with handcuffs and you want to criticise the RMT ( and apparently ASLEF) for its position five years ago in a referendum on leaving the EU?

Hang your head in shame pal.

I don't see having a problem with one as excluding the other. Idiots don't get a free ride just because other people are assholes too. I hardly think it's necessary, given the content of the thread, to waste space pointing out that Dubai is full of fuckheads and the Tories are scum.

 

[The39thStep]

I don't see having a problem with one as excluding the other. Idiots don't get a free ride just because other people are assholes too. I hardly think it's necessary, given the content of the thread, to waste space pointing out that Dubai is full of fuckheads and the Tories are scum.

So the Union defending the sacked workers are also idiots now ?

Don’t bother replying plz

 

[Chz]

So the Union defending the sacked workers are also idiots now ?

Don’t bother replying plz

It's almost, almost, as if people and organisations can be not 100% right or 100% wrong all of the time, yes. One action does not necessarily excuse another.

I've said my piece, I'll leave the floor to you.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

So the Union defending the sacked workers are also idiots now ?

Don’t bother replying plz

Imagine holding politics where when you read about 800 workers getting sacked on the spot your instinct is to a) blame the workers union and b) deliberately conflate Tory anti union laws with the Brexit debate.

By the way Chz the RMTs record in standing up for its members interests - on the tube, on the trains, cleaners, porters, taxi drivers and now P&O workers - is pretty well known on here. If you want to side with their opponents you’re going to need to come better equipped than you’ve managed so far….

 

[Pickman's model]

That's not the point at all. The point is that the claim brexit would protect workers' rights is utter bullshit. We've always had fewer rights than, for example, the French, and we've continued to have fewer rights and you don't need a crystal ball to predict that it's going to continue that way for a long, long time.
It's not brexit's fault, it's more the ridiculous claims made by the RMT/ASLEF at the time really grating.

it is better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than pipe up and prove the suspicions correct

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Has the cancerous piece of shit on the redundancy video been identified?

Well he’s ex Royal Mail. Will have a name shortly:



His name is Andy Goode. If anyone has his contact details for correspondence, enquiries and the like please let us know.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Technically, I think that ships entering busy ports with bridge officers who are unfamiliar with that port need a pilot ...

As I understand it a pilot is always despatched regardless. I think even if you know the port this has to be at least agreed on by the port and the ports pilot first.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Surely the company is licensed to operate in UK ports etc, there’s plenty the government can do, but they don’t want to.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

As I understand it a pilot is always despatched regardless. I think even if you know the port this has to be at least agreed on by the port and the ports pilot first.

Not on the Ro-Ro ferries they don't.

 

[William of Walworth]

Glad there's a thread about this. I only picked up on this news yesterday, and my immediate reaction was 'Scumbags!!'

 

[A380]

Things were shit before brexit and I was poor - things are still shit after brexit and I'm poor.

Things were shit before Brexit but I had a bit of money. Things are more shit after Brexit and like most non-very-rich -people I have a fair bit less money.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Seems to me a pretty good idea not to make this about Brexit.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Glad there's a thread about this. I only picked up on this news yesterday, and my immediate reaction was 'Scumbags!!'

So was I until I walked in and discovered it was a brexit thread.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

That's not the point at all. The point is that the claim brexit would protect workers' rights is utter bullshit.

That wasn't what RMT or indeed anyone was claiming when they spoke about the relationship between workers rights and EU membership. But I'm sure that after years of this conversation now that you know that. It's the worlds longest most epic troll ever.

 

[The39thStep]

Seems to me a pretty good idea not to make this about Brexit.

Absolutely, it trivialises the sackings and what might be done to fight back. There’s plenty of room for the pragmatic liberals who want to blame everything on Brexit and attack trade unions in the Brexit threads .

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Absolutely, it trivialises the sackings and what might be done to fight back. There’s plenty of room for the pragmatic liberals who want to blame everything on Brexit and attack trade unions in the Brexit threads .

Am getting my RMT t-shirt on in protest now. KEEP THE GUARD ON THE TRAIN

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

A naked class war is being waged against PO workers. Its crucial that the unions respond with occupations and sympathy strikes. Otherwise we will be truly fucked.

That's the spirit! More of these posts please.

Dunno hijacking a ferry full of people sounds easy when you put it like that.

Imagine the ensuing death toll from boat-happiness, I hear that shit is contagious.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Does the fact that the sailors contracts were out of Jersey make any difference?

From the CEO.

Severing the contracts of all 800 Jersey-contracted seafaring colleagues with immediate effect and will be compensating them for lack of notice with enhanced severance packages.

 

[SpookyFrank]

BiB - yup, all ships, big & small, old & new have 'em.

Failing operating those devices ...

... sledgehammer, meet pipe [incoming seawater for cooling] [as per scuttling in Scapa Flow in 1919]

In 1919 they also welded the bulkhead doors open. Not sure if ferry staff have access to welding gear

That German fleet ended up being worth more sunk than afloat of course, as a source of radiation-free steel.

 

[The39thStep]

Not a ‘I blame it on Brexit ‘ supporter amongst them

 

[editor]

This believe it or not in The Telegraph

Revealed: Handcuff-trained heavies dispatched by P&O to ferry dispute​

P&O has hired a private security firm to provide backup in the dispute with ferry workers.
The firm was asked to send 16 handcuff-trained officers to the Port of Dover in case of a "backlash" among staff after redundancies were announced.
An email sent to security guards beforehand, seen by the Telegraph, told them the job will last a week and they will be paid £14.50 an hour. It says:

It also reveals they were told to get to a hotel in the area by Tuesday and to undergo training on Wednesday.

Here's the message sent from the shitty security firm.

 

[killer b]

That doesn't seem a great rate of pay - surely if you'r going to be the hired muscle of this week's national hate figure you'd want to be more comfortably recompensed?

 

[not-bono-ever]

just remembered something - during the 88/9 strike, all of my dads ships crew homes were raided at the same time by customs and excise along with the coppers for protection including our local beat copper - who was mortified by the whole thing. same day, same time - from belfast to to the isle of wight, randoms pulling up loose floorboards and checking the vin of our car. looking into drug smuggling apparently. my mother gave them non stop shit as they pulled the house apart. curiously opportune timing for something of such scale. low level hassle, the cunts.

 

[Pickman's model]

That doesn't seem a great rate of pay - surely if you'r going to be the hired muscle of this week's national hate figure you'd want to be more comfortably recompensed?

30 pieces of silver is i believe the going rate

 

[not-bono-ever]

That doesn't seem a great rate of pay - surely if you'r going to be the hired muscle of this week's national hate figure you'd want to be more comfortably recompensed?

i think most were bailiffs. its not like they care about peoples opinions of them anyway

 

[Orang Utan]

i think most were bailiffs. its not like they care about peoples opinions of them anyway

They might if those opinions came in the form of swinging fists and two by fours whacked across their shiny red bonces. Not that I endorse such criminality.

 

[tim]

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Here's the message sent from the shitty security firm.

Pinkertons in Twenty-First Century Britain.

 

[brogdale]

Could go in a number of threads...but here might be best?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Fucking jokers.

 

[brogdale]

Fucking jokers.

Graylingesque