#occupy London....

[smokedout]

The way to help the movement grow is through outreach...that means having an environment and atmosphere that people from outside the camp feel comfortable to engage with etc.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

so you're happy for the media to set the rules, rules you follow without even being asked. who needs cops when you've got the media.

The media have been setting the rules for our politicians for the last few decades. Remember "It's the Sun wot won it" after Kinnock's defeat. Remember the Labour Party Rapid Rebuttal Unit using Excalibur software to pick up hostile news and counter it, and subsequently Tony Blair flying off to meet Murdoch to get him on side before his election campaign. Look at the failure of the Met Police to admit to being influenced by journalists in the phone tapping scandal. If people at that level of power and politics are cowed by the media then it is not surprising that anti-establishment people sleeping in tents where they are not wanted, should show caution.

 

[smokedout]

The media have been setting the rules for our politicians for the last few decades.

superficially perhaps, but in who's interests? why are you sucking up to the people you want to destroy?

 

[London_Calling]

 

[treelover]

 

[treelover]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ercover-at-St-Pauls-anti-capitalism-demo.html

Hatchet job in The SUN

 

[treelover]

'My suspicions are confirmed when he invites me to the "love tent".
Oh God, is that what I think it is?
Why yes, it is. He tells me: "I went in there once. It's basically a massive orgy with loads of teenagers.
"There was just this mass of bodies all getting down to it."

C,mon this is bollocks isn't it?

 

[dennisr]

C,mon this is bollocks isn't it?

Its all true - i flogged a couple of papers in there

 

[smokedout]

'My suspicions are confirmed when he invites me to the "love tent".
Oh God, is that what I think it is?
Why yes, it is. He tells me: "I went in there once. It's basically a massive orgy with loads of teenagers.
"There was just this mass of bodies all getting down to it."

I take it back. youve really got the media tucked up this time

 

[GEN.Eccentric]

'My suspicions are confirmed when he invites me to the "love tent".
Oh God, is that what I think it is?
Why yes, it is. He tells me: "I went in there once. It's basically a massive orgy with loads of teenagers.
"There was just this mass of bodies all getting down to it."

C,mon this is bollocks isn't it?

The only coherent comments on the page appear to come to the conclusion it is bollocks. I really think only a small minority of people actually believe anything in Murdochs papers, most just like reading it, it makes them feel some how more secure in their vapid and vacuous materialist bubble which they are subconsciously terrified of being popped.

 

[smokedout]

that must be it. they must be stupid.

 

[8ball]

The only coherent comments on the page appear to come to the conclusion it is bollocks.

A lot of the incoherent comments come to the same conclusion - it's near-unanimous.

 

[love detective]

Its all true - i flogged a couple of papers in there

is that a euphinisism?

 

[dennisr]

is that a euphinisism?

quite possibly (its as true as the sun 'report')

 

[DRINK?]

love tent sounds great....as for the rest of it meh...bit boring now, can't they go on a rampage or something and I can go home early from work.....yawn

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I see that article recycles the one about it not being anti-capitalist to be drinking Starbucks and using Macbooks that was first created on a panel programme by a female Tory MP last week, repeated by Theresa May in another programme and is now given its third airing in the Sun. Also having seen the alleged 'Love Tent' saying "I made my excuses and left". That is a good old News of the World cliché that with the demise of that newspaper is now in the wild for all tabloids to use.

 

[treelover]

I do wonder what will happen after Wednesday if there is trouble, though i suspect the student march will be a lot smaller this year

 

[Corax]

'My suspicions are confirmed when he invites me to the "love tent".
Oh God, is that what I think it is?
Why yes, it is. He tells me: "I went in there once. It's basically a massive orgy with loads of teenagers.
"There was just this mass of bodies all getting down to it."

C,mon this is bollocks isn't it?

Fucksake, I knew letting WillNumbers get involved was a bad idea.

 

[ExtraRefined]

 

[claphamboy]

Fucksake, I knew letting WillNumbers get involved was a bad idea.

I think I can see a flaw in this post.

Do you seriously think he would actually be invited into the love tent?

 

[Corax]

I think I can see a flaw in this post.

Do you seriously think he would actually be invited into the love tent?

Ask Rutita....!

 

[Luther Blissett]

I'm not used to seeing treelover so happy, but I like it

 

[Treacle Toes]

Ask Rutita....!

Sorry I haven't gotten around to answering your PM yet, (I appreciated the sentiment by the way).

I would however like this silliness to stop now. Thanks.

 

[Treacle Toes]

so you're happy for the media to set the rules, rules you follow without even being asked. who needs cops when you've got the media.

Why do you assume it's the media setting the rules? The media is hardly 'flattering' the occupations is it? They continue however and despite the way you want to interpret the 'discrete' drinking policy on camp,there was a consesus decision for it which had nothing to do with wanting to discrimate against street drinkers. Many people on site are taking the occupation and their input in it seriously, shock horror they don't want to get drunk all the time or encourage others to do so.

 

[8ball]

Why do you assume it's the media setting the rules? The media is hardly 'flattering' the occupations is it? They continue however and despite the way you want to interpret the 'discrete' drinking policy on camp,there was a consesus decision for it which had nothing to do with wanting to discrimate against street drinkers.

Don't take this the wrong way, and I may be minsinterpreting media reports again, but how do you know what the reasons are for 'decision by jazzhands'?

 

[Corax]

Sorry I haven't gotten around to answering your PM yet, (I appreciated the sentiment by the way).

I would however like this silliness to stop now. Thanks.

Done.

I was hoping that would run like hobnobs and dub's fiver.

 

[Pickman's model]

Why do you assume it's the media setting the rules? The media is hardly 'flattering' the occupations is it? They continue however and despite the way you want to interpret the 'discrete' drinking policy on camp,there was a consesus decision for it which had nothing to do with wanting to discrimate against street drinkers. Many people on site are taking the occupation and their input in it seriously, shock horror they don't want to get drunk all the time or encourage others to do so.

i suppose street drinkers were invited to this meeting and helped it reach consensus.

 

[ddraig]

Don't take this the wrong way, and I may be minsinterpreting media reports again, but how do you know what the reasons are for 'decision by jazzhands'?

so that the meeting is not constantly interrupted afaik

 

[8ball]

so that the meeting is not constantly interrupted afaik

Well, I imagine so, but unless people speak up and give their reasons you can't really say why a motion was carried with this kind of decision making.

 

[shaman75]

Well, I imagine so, but unless people speak up and give their reasons you can't really say why a motion was carried with this kind of decision making.

People do speak up though. That's why decisions take so long imo. Anyone can get up and say their bit or amend something, change some wording, ask for more time and to defer the decision etc...

And when somebody says something a lot of people agree with, it's quite obvious to all who are there.