nino_savatte
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What a crock.
#occupy London....
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Treacle Toes
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Tents in Trafalgar Sq. First GA happening there now.
Corax
Luke 5:16
n00bzTrying to make this thread unsearchable obvs.
Noobz
Treacle Toes
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KIcking off on the main march after police kettle protesters.
Traf Sq group being arrested/dragged out after being cautioned at the mo.
http://www.livestream.com/occupylsx
Traf Sq group being arrested/dragged out after being cautioned at the mo.
http://www.livestream.com/occupylsx
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Fair play to Tom Morello (RATM) showing his solidarity @St Pauls earlier......
'A firearms officer is facing disciplinary action after waking up in a protester's tent outside St Paul's Cathedral following a night of heavy drinking.
Pc Gary Withers, 35, was allegedly so drunk that he was thrown out of the Savoy Hotel in central London last week.
He is then said to have walked to St Paul's,
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059697/Firearms-police-officer-slept-Occupy-St-Pauls-tent-night-drinking.html#ixzz1dJWUG6pd
You really really couldn't make this up, deserves a thread of its own..
Pc Gary Withers, 35, was allegedly so drunk that he was thrown out of the Savoy Hotel in central London last week.
He is then said to have walked to St Paul's,
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059697/Firearms-police-officer-slept-Occupy-St-Pauls-tent-night-drinking.html#ixzz1dJWUG6pd
You really really couldn't make this up, deserves a thread of its own..
Corax
Luke 5:16
SpineyNorman
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He's a mentally deficient cunt for making that video (which, by the way, conflates mass production with capitalism at least 4 times
)You're a mentally deficient cunt for posting it. But then again we all knew that already.
London Eye
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Ok, so I've been going along to the St Paul's occupation, taken part in general assemblies, attended some working groups. As much as the hand signals annoy me and as wary as I am about "alternative" investigations into banking practices, the City of London and democracy turning into unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, there do seem to be some interesting speakers and activists. But after a month or so, the rifts among the campers are becoming more evident, the hand signals have turned from annoying to infuriating and there seems to be a working group being created for every point raised. I don't see right now how this can connect with the 99% or even the 50%. There is an issue of class that is not even discussed at the camp. It seems young, white middle-class activists predominate.
I don't want to read over these 50-odd pages, but I would like a distillation of the main points, the good points and the criticisms. Do people believe that the conspiracy stuff undermines the whole camp? What about those who concentrate on the financial system, fractional reserve, debt-based banking? All conspiracy? What about Positive Money UK, who presented their ideas in parliament along with Tory MP, Steve Baker and Michael Meacher MP? Does the involvement of Michael Meacher, who once asked for a proper investigation into 911, make the whole thing conspiracy territory. I lay my cards on the table, conspiracy theories do interest me, but more and more (with the help of places like Urban 75) I recognise how important it is to be as grounded as possible, It doesn't change my suspicions of how our governments and institutions lie to us, but I do want to hear grounded views about what is happening, so I can form a balanced opinion.
I'd rather not focus on conspiracy, because there are many environmental and democratic reformists at Occupy LSX there who are not into that. But what I'm asking is, is Occupy London working, is it part of a growing movement, or is this just desperation in the face of economic and political collapse? And if this is not the way, what is the way to bring justice to this world and its people and to hold bankers and politicians and multinational corporations to account?
I don't want to read over these 50-odd pages, but I would like a distillation of the main points, the good points and the criticisms. Do people believe that the conspiracy stuff undermines the whole camp? What about those who concentrate on the financial system, fractional reserve, debt-based banking? All conspiracy? What about Positive Money UK, who presented their ideas in parliament along with Tory MP, Steve Baker and Michael Meacher MP? Does the involvement of Michael Meacher, who once asked for a proper investigation into 911, make the whole thing conspiracy territory. I lay my cards on the table, conspiracy theories do interest me, but more and more (with the help of places like Urban 75) I recognise how important it is to be as grounded as possible, It doesn't change my suspicions of how our governments and institutions lie to us, but I do want to hear grounded views about what is happening, so I can form a balanced opinion.
I'd rather not focus on conspiracy, because there are many environmental and democratic reformists at Occupy LSX there who are not into that. But what I'm asking is, is Occupy London working, is it part of a growing movement, or is this just desperation in the face of economic and political collapse? And if this is not the way, what is the way to bring justice to this world and its people and to hold bankers and politicians and multinational corporations to account?
Luther Blissett
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was anyone here at the St. Pauls GA on Sunday??*.. there were a number of proposals re 'street folk'... are these taking effect? as a few who were there are trying to get feedback but busy.... there are people willing to set up support to the 'welcome tent' in a structured manner (as proposed.. say between 2-4 pm so we have a few 'experienced outreach workers' , working in a grassroots n personal capacity manner (ie no pov pimps... as if lol) about etc????
*if its gonna disrail thread, just PM me etc
*if its gonna disrail thread, just PM me etc
a quick visit yesterday revealed the camp's true attitude towards street drinkers
8ball
Decolonise colons!
a quick visit yesterday revealed the camp's true attitude towards street drinkers
They do rather put one off one's organic tofu.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
if theres no tins allowed then they can keep their revolution...
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Natural leaders.
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COL representatives and police...serving notice to quit...attaching the papers to tents on the live stream now.
http://www.livestream.com/occupylsx
http://www.livestream.com/occupylsx
Treacle Toes
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I would imagine it has a lot to do with the fact that most of the incidents that include verbal and physical abuse/attacks have been from people who are completely pissed.
so support not just excluding but also abusing vulnerable people with substance misuse problems then
Treacle Toes
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That is being done. Some people are refusing the help/referrals offered. Even if people are engaging and taking the help offered, in the mean time it is not stopping them getting drunk and abusing other protestors. There are also people who are not resident on site who are coming in just to hang out, get pissed etc.
why do you think youve got anything to offer that cant be done far better by existing services that people on the street are already well aware of you stupid fucking liberals
so you are prepared to abuse vulnerable people with a medical condition because you arent organised or capable enough to manage the needs of everyone properly. will there be signs telling junkies, spackers, mongs and nutters to piss off as well?
FridgeMagnet
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That is an appalling, aggressive sign - it doesn't make any difference what was going on. Even if you wanted to have the camp be dry, you could just have signs saying "no alcohol", that's not hard. Maybe somebody thought it was amusing.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I agree there. There's a similar sign in Nottingham - I don't recall the wording but it's much more friendly and lightly humorous.
That didn't stop me having a go at them and comparing them to the Stasi, mind.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
There are obviously issues in dealing with drunk or otherwise intoxicated people. There are, however, more diplomatic ways of going about it.
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