Noam Chomsky: 9-11: Institutional Analysis vs. Conspiracy Theory
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I think David Icke is quoted in 2003 as saying 'we are *all* sons and daughters of God', which is something akin to the message of the Essene version of Jesus, who is called Yeshua.editor said:
and potentially, yes, we are all channels for the Christ spirit, which is Love.
it's not that I *know* what you are going to post up Ed, but the fact that you would dub me or my views 'conspiraloon' indicates to me that you have little respect for me or my views. there is only so far a discussion can go, on these terms. I have respect for myself, and for you.
I don't think that swearing helps yr argument, by the way. it's not big and it's not clever!
Problem is, ed, this is going to go nowhere except the same way as the now-terminated arguments with Azrael23 and squeegee.
They're not rationalists (by their own admission): therefore they just won't accept what we would regard as the most logical explanation, and they'll entertain possibilities that we would regard as absurd. And then when we say, 'oh nonsense' they'll start harping on about how our lumpen rationalism just oppresses their freedom of, like, thought and stuff maaaan.
May as well write this one off now IMO.
They're not rationalists (by their own admission): therefore they just won't accept what we would regard as the most logical explanation, and they'll entertain possibilities that we would regard as absurd. And then when we say, 'oh nonsense' they'll start harping on about how our lumpen rationalism just oppresses their freedom of, like, thought and stuff maaaan.
May as well write this one off now IMO.
Idris2002
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snouty warthog said:pk, you miss Jazzz's purpose in quoting Goebbels. he is making a point about propaganda, and those who would use it to control the thinking of the masses.
also, I don't think Icke is anti-semitic. that's a smear. what he is, is anti-extra-terrestrial lizard. there is a slight difference. in fact, I don't think he even dislikes all the lizards, just the 'bad' ones. which is understandable. I'm not so keen on the 'bad' lizards either. they are very naughty.
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Even if we take the charitable interpretation, that Icke genuinely believes he is not an anti-semite, he is still an ideological Typhoid Mary.
By granting the Protocols the oxygen of publicity, he gives fresh life to a libel that should have died decades ago.
Badger Kitten
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One of my favourite conspiracies is that that David Shaykler and David Icke are government-funded to discredit conspiracies, by, erm, being loons.
Badger Kitten
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I had an enthusiastic email from David Icke's missus once. Nice lady, bit excitable.(It was when me and various other bloggers were pushing the lone masss protest demo. I had a link on David Icke's newsletter, for one day all my hits were from Icke fans. They must have been a bit gutted when they read all the anti CT stuff on me blog.)
Badger Kitten
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Probably. I know I am. 
Badger Kitten
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No really. I am . I read it on several places on the internet. It must therefore be true.
Blagsta
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From what I've read about Northwood, it wasn't a fully drawn up plan. It was a list of possible methods for increasing support for invasion of Cuba. It included lots of different things. To make out it was a detailed plan for "false flag" ops is misleading as far as I can tell.
Badger Kitten
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It's mad. It's like saying because there were plans to nuclear-bomb Russia during the 70's , there must have been many secret nuclear-bomb strikes that we don't know about.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
snouty warthog said:
No, he definitely is. Either that or very very naive and stupid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke#Allegations_of_anti-Semitism
Are you mad? 
No it's not 'the Jews'. 
Icke refers to a ruling elite comprised of a few families, some of which happen to be Jewish. He gives whole day-long lectures without mentioning the word 'Jew' - rather curious for an anti-semite. It may appear by isolating stuff about Jewishness from many millions of words he has written that there's some hidden issue but it really isn't. As for the Talmud, I think it's a racist load of nonsense too (among other religious institutions which he will also criticise).
Icke refers to a ruling elite comprised of a few families, some of which happen to be Jewish. He gives whole day-long lectures without mentioning the word 'Jew' - rather curious for an anti-semite. It may appear by isolating stuff about Jewishness from many millions of words he has written that there's some hidden issue but it really isn't. As for the Talmud, I think it's a racist load of nonsense too (among other religious institutions which he will also criticise).exosculate
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Icke clearly has mental health problems he really is not worth the bother of talking about.
From Blagsta's link"Jazzz said:No it's not 'the Jews'.
So that settles that one, then.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Since when did mornington cresent meet cludo?
..... aaaaaaaannnnnnddddd......
... we're into 20 pages. And none the fucking wiser. Still, it's something to do innit.
I'm quite tempted to write a program to generate these threads. Wouldn't be too hard. Kindof like a bunch of turing-test machines sitting in a circle, talking fairly intelligent sounding bollocks to each other until the end of time.
... we're into 20 pages. And none the fucking wiser. Still, it's something to do innit.
I'm quite tempted to write a program to generate these threads. Wouldn't be too hard. Kindof like a bunch of turing-test machines sitting in a circle, talking fairly intelligent sounding bollocks to each other until the end of time.
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