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Just watched a brand new mad French surreal comedy sci-fi film called BigBug. I’m not going to describe it as a Marmite film because whereas plenty of people will hate it, I doubt the other half will ‘love it’. It’s more like an ‘either you think it’s shit, or about 6/10’.

So that clear disclaimer out of the way, I am putting myself in the latter camp. Weird and amusing enough to work even though it feels like a poor man’s Wes Anderson film. Once you get past the first fifteen minutes the feeling you’re watching an episode of Lazytown on acid evaporates, and you start to feel there’s more to the film than that.

Anyway, I’ve given enough warning so don’t even bother watching if such weird shit doesn’t appeal to you, but maybe give it a try otherwise. I’ve seen a lot worse when seeking mindless entertainment, and if nothing else top marks must undoubtedly be awarded here for originality.

ETA: You know what? I was being somewhat reserved earlier because opinions on this forum, but on further reflection, fuck it. Still not great but I would happily say it’s a 7/10 flick, and worth getting past the first twenty minutes even if it doesn’t initially do it for you.
 
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We started watching it today but Julie Garner's accent is so jarringly atrocious I'm not sure I'm going to make it through this one.
The series is based on a real person called Anna Sorokin who has a weird accent, because she was/is a delusional con woman doing a poor job at impersonating someone of a nationality and a class which she isn't. The amazing thing about the case is that she got away with it for as long as she did, because her con was so obvious.

As soon as the series hit, there were reports of people complaining about Julia Garner's "bad" accent, clueless that this is based on an actual person. The inauthicity of the character is the entire point of the series and Garner's accent is true to Sorokin, a young Russian woman from a modest background doing an impression of a German heiress, trying to fit in in New York.

The series itself isn't that good, which is a shame as the case itself is fascinating, reflecting a sense of entitlement and narcissism social media breeds. There are documentaries and and couple of excellent podcasts, a feature film is in the works too. Julia Garner's performance is pretty good though.
 
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The series is based on a real person called Anna Sorokin who has a weird accent, because she was/is a delusional con woman doing a poor job at impersonating someone of a nationality and a class which she isn't. The amazing thing about the case is that she got away with it for as long as she did, because her con was so obvious.

As soon as the series hit, there were reports of people complaining about Julia Garner's "bad" accent, clueless that this is based on an actual person. The inauthicity of the character is the entire point of the series and Garner's accent is true to Sorokin, a young Russian woman from a modest background doing an impression of a German heiress, trying to fit in in New York.

The series itself isn't that good, which is a shame as the case itself is fascinating, reflecting a sense of entitlement and narcissism social media breeds. There are documentaries and and couple of excellent podcasts, a feature film is in the works too. Julia Garner's performance is pretty good though.
Yes I’m familiar with the story and read about the show before too, but her accent is most certainly not true to Sorokin/Delvey, who had/has a pretty much American accent. She does keep lapsing into southern-belle American, like her Ozark character, then goes back to whatever else she’s doing, which you can tell isn’t part of the plan. The inconsistency gives it away rather than supports it. Otherwise Garner’s performance is ok. She’s a good actress.

I’m going to wait and see what others think of the show and perhaps pick it up later. The problem for me is that the first episode is deadly slow and boring, and there are eight more. Probably more suited to a film or 3-parter.
 
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Many Netflix shows put me off cos they’re too long, especially the scandalous trash docs like Tiger King. Stories like that deserve an hour at best. He says with no knowledge of the story but you know what I mean.
 
Many Netflix shows put me off cos they’re too long, especially the scandalous trash docs like Tiger King. Stories like that deserve an hour at best. He says with no knowledge of the story but you know what I mean.
I think this is a problem with the streaming age of tv in general. The competition is to keep eyeballs on screen for as long as possible so viewers don't even have time to step out of your platform to another one. As a result there's more incentive to keep things long than to tell a story efficiently and well. And every fiction series has to be written as though there might be ten future series, because if it does well there will be. It becomes very difficult to tell a properly self-contained story in an appropriate amount of time.
 
Also there does seem to be a problem with screen storytelling even in movies at the moment where writers don't know how to tell a story efficiently. Like lightweight films like Eternals being two and a half hours long? It's a silly superhero fantasy ffs, not War and Peace. Casablanca is an hour and forty two minutes you idiots. What makes you think LENGTH is a virtue? But that's been going on for a few years I think and possibly pre-dates the streaming boom. I think I had the same complaint in the late 2000s :D
 
Also there does seem to be a problem with screen storytelling even in movies at the moment where writers don't know how to tell a story efficiently. Like lightweight films like Eternals being two and a half hours long? It's a silly superhero fantasy ffs, not War and Peace. Casablanca is an hour and forty two minutes you idiots. What makes you think LENGTH is a virtue? But that's been going on for a few years I think and possibly pre-dates the streaming boom. I think I had the same complaint in the late 2000s :D
Yep. I think most films these days are far too long.
 
Also there does seem to be a problem with screen storytelling even in movies at the moment where writers don't know how to tell a story efficiently. Like lightweight films like Eternals being two and a half hours long? It's a silly superhero fantasy ffs, not War and Peace. Casablanca is an hour and forty two minutes you idiots. What makes you think LENGTH is a virtue? But that's been going on for a few years I think and possibly pre-dates the streaming boom. I think I had the same complaint in the late 2000s :D
Marvel is a soap opera - they’re massive tv serials that just happen to get shown at the cinema
 
Yes I’m familiar with the story and read about the show before too, but her accent is most certainly not true to Sorokin/Delvey, who had/has a pretty much American accent. She does keep lapsing into southern-belle American, like her Ozark character, then goes back to whatever else she’s doing, which you can tell isn’t part of the plan. The inconsistency gives it away rather than supports it. Otherwise Garner’s performance is ok. She’s a good actress.

I’m going to wait and see what others think of the show and perhaps pick it up later. The problem for me is that the first episode is deadly slow and boring, and there are eight more. Probably more suited to a film or 3-parter.
You can't hear the strong Russian accent mixed in with the American accent, the latter of which is all over the place ? And she doesn't need to attempt at a German impersonation here. There aren't many recordings of Sorokin, especially not as her Delvey persona, so Garner also had to go by descriptions of what she speaks like.


I find the obsession with accents and dialects on Urban weird, so many people here fancy themselves the utmost authority on every accent in the English language, spoken by anybody ever and then come down like a town of bricks on performances where the accent doesn't live up to their idea of what it should be, as if accents are an exact science.

If you were to hear me speak English, I'm pretty sure my accent would be deemed very inauthentic, any actor imitating it would get slated here. I have a German accent, the strength of which changes depending on my mood and concentration, mixed in with an English accent which reflects that I mostly lived in London. There also are US and Australian expressions which I picked up when I lived in those countries. Americans rarely pick up on my German accent and think I'm British. When I lived in California, I Americanised my accent, simply to make myself better understood, so there it was different again. Germans can't place my accent at all when I speak German, due to the way I was raised and because my parents come from opposite ends of the country.
 
Many Netflix shows put me off cos they’re too long, especially the scandalous trash docs like Tiger King. Stories like that deserve an hour at best. He says with no knowledge of the story but you know what I mean.
Very true. Tiger King is an interesting story, but not a series.
 
I find the obsession with accents and dialects on Urban weird, so many people here fancy themselves the utmost authority on every accent in the English language, spoken by anybody ever and then come down like a town of bricks on performances where the accent doesn't live up to their idea of what it should be, as if accents are an exact science.
Badly done accents can ruin scenes/films though - Oldman's cod Jamaican in True Romance; Dicaprio's Irish in Gangs of NY. If you're thinking about how crap the accent is, you're not watching the film.

Or it becomes part of the joy of the film I guess - Connery/Lambert in Highlander.
 
You can't hear the strong Russian accent mixed in with the American accent, the latter of which is all over the place ? And she doesn't need to attempt at a German impersonation here. There aren't many recordings of Sorokin, especially not as her Delvey persona, so Garner also had to go by descriptions of what she speaks like.


I find the obsession with accents and dialects on Urban weird, so many people here fancy themselves the utmost authority on every accent in the English language, spoken by anybody ever and then come down like a town of bricks on performances where the accent doesn't live up to their idea of what it should be, as if accents are an exact science.

If you were to hear me speak English, I'm pretty sure my accent would be deemed very inauthentic, any actor imitating it would get slated here. I have a German accent, the strength of which changes depending on my mood and concentration, mixed in with an English accent which reflects that I mostly lived in London. There also are US and Australian expressions which I picked up when I lived in those countries. Americans rarely pick up on my German accent and think I'm British. When I lived in California, I Americanised my accent, simply to make myself better understood, so there it was different again. Germans can't place my accent at all when I speak German, due to the way I was raised and because my parents come from opposite ends of the country.

You're not an actor though. Poor accents can ruin performances because they can become the focus of attention. Either do them well or don't do them at all.
 
What it does for the actor's careers doesn't concern me. It's about how it affects my enjoyment of the show.

Surely down to whether the viewer is familiar with proper accents, though? As in aforementioned Narcos... or perhaps, if the viewer is a fan of the actors involves and might allow certain leeway with the delivery?
 
Surely down to whether the viewer is familiar with proper accents, though? As in aforementioned Narcos... or perhaps, if the viewer is a fan of the actors involves and might allow certain leeway with the delivery?
Well of course. If you don't know that the accent is nonsense it's not going to bother you. The guy who plays Escobar in Narcos, is Brazilian, so perhaps Colombians think he speaks Spanish with a strange accent or perhaps he can speak accentless Spanish. Like you, I couldn't tell the difference so didn't care. American actors fucking-up European accents though, we're more likely to notice.
 
Well of course. If you don't know that the accent is nonsense it's not going to bother you. The guy who plays Escobar in Narcos, is Brazilian, so perhaps Colombians think he speaks Spanish with a strange accent or perhaps he can speak accentless Spanish. Like you, I couldn't tell the difference so didn't care. American actors fucking-up European accents though, we're more likely to notice.

Brad Pitt in the enjoyably silly Snatch yarn springs to mind.

But Jane Leeves accent in Frasier was odd, considering she's British.
 
Brad Pitt in the enjoyably silly Snatch yarn springs to mind.

But Jane Leeves accent in Frasier was odd, considering she's British.

Well I'm from the south of England too and I daresay she did a far better Mancunian accent than I could muster.

In terms of bad accents, Winona Ryder in Bram Stoker's Dracula - it wasn't quite English, it wasn't quite "Mid-Atlantic" and there were times when the vowels were very grating.
 
I started on Inventing Anna yesterday and really enjoyed the first episode, it’s slick and funny and I anyway love all stories about imposters.
Odd feeling reading this, which the real anna wrote last week from her prison cell whilst we are entertained by the fictional version:
 
Many Netflix shows put me off cos they’re too long, especially the scandalous trash docs like Tiger King. Stories like that deserve an hour at best. He says with no knowledge of the story but you know what I mean.
Try watching Married at First Sight Australia! (Don’t really though) 40 bleeding episodes per series, each one over an hour of dross, padded out into 90 min episodes by All4 with the addition of too many ad breaks.

60 hours of your life disappearing each time they drop one of those series, and I could save you the trouble anyway because they all end up hating each other and splitting up at the end of it anyway.

And before you ask why I’m bothering to watch it - one of the many compromises imposed by marriage.
 
If you like true crime stuff and documentaries about confidence tricksters/fraudsters etc. then I recommend The Tinder Swindler.
It's a documentary film one off rather than one of these series that drags it out to too many episodes requiring a large investment of time to watch it and with too many recaps, this is a nicely paced sit and watch in one go job.

Tinder Swindler

True stories of women swindled out of money by the same guy

Very interesting.
Another vote for this one. Gripping in a “car crash tv” kinda way. You just know he‘s never gonna change though. I wonder how many people he will have damaged by the time his life is over.
 
Another vote for this one. Gripping in a “car crash tv” kinda way. You just know he‘s never gonna change though. I wonder how many people he will have damaged by the time his life is over.
So this sounds similar to the Puppet Master, right?
 
More a dating swindler.
Absolute knob.
But his face is out there now. So women should know him.

I'm faceblind tbh, and married - but should I find myself back on the dating market, I am generally turned off by people who are/say they are/boast about being very wealthy (thinking they probably have a very different life experience than me, different values, nothing in common, and would probably be at wildly different ends of the political spectrum) so I should be safe :D I'd also make a spectacularly poor target for trying to swindle money out of tbf.
 
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