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Usual reviews RT & IMDb were woeful. A pass from me.We started watching it today but Julie Garner's accent is so jarringly atrocious I'm not sure I'm going to make it through this one.
Usual reviews RT & IMDb were woeful. A pass from me.We started watching it today but Julie Garner's accent is so jarringly atrocious I'm not sure I'm going to make it through this one.
Usual reviews RT & IMDb were woeful. A pass from me.
The series is based on a real person called Anna Sorokin who has a weird accent, because she was/is a delusional con woman doing a poor job at impersonating someone of a nationality and a class which she isn't. The amazing thing about the case is that she got away with it for as long as she did, because her con was so obvious.We started watching it today but Julie Garner's accent is so jarringly atrocious I'm not sure I'm going to make it through this one.
Yes I’m familiar with the story and read about the show before too, but her accent is most certainly not true to Sorokin/Delvey, who had/has a pretty much American accent. She does keep lapsing into southern-belle American, like her Ozark character, then goes back to whatever else she’s doing, which you can tell isn’t part of the plan. The inconsistency gives it away rather than supports it. Otherwise Garner’s performance is ok. She’s a good actress.The series is based on a real person called Anna Sorokin who has a weird accent, because she was/is a delusional con woman doing a poor job at impersonating someone of a nationality and a class which she isn't. The amazing thing about the case is that she got away with it for as long as she did, because her con was so obvious.
As soon as the series hit, there were reports of people complaining about Julia Garner's "bad" accent, clueless that this is based on an actual person. The inauthicity of the character is the entire point of the series and Garner's accent is true to Sorokin, a young Russian woman from a modest background doing an impression of a German heiress, trying to fit in in New York.
The series itself isn't that good, which is a shame as the case itself is fascinating, reflecting a sense of entitlement and narcissism social media breeds. There are documentaries and and couple of excellent podcasts, a feature film is in the works too. Julia Garner's performance is pretty good though.
I think this is a problem with the streaming age of tv in general. The competition is to keep eyeballs on screen for as long as possible so viewers don't even have time to step out of your platform to another one. As a result there's more incentive to keep things long than to tell a story efficiently and well. And every fiction series has to be written as though there might be ten future series, because if it does well there will be. It becomes very difficult to tell a properly self-contained story in an appropriate amount of time.Many Netflix shows put me off cos they’re too long, especially the scandalous trash docs like Tiger King. Stories like that deserve an hour at best. He says with no knowledge of the story but you know what I mean.
We started watching it today but Julie Garner's accent is so jarringly atrocious I'm not sure I'm going to make it through this one.
Yep. I think most films these days are far too long.Also there does seem to be a problem with screen storytelling even in movies at the moment where writers don't know how to tell a story efficiently. Like lightweight films like Eternals being two and a half hours long? It's a silly superhero fantasy ffs, not War and Peace. Casablanca is an hour and forty two minutes you idiots. What makes you think LENGTH is a virtue? But that's been going on for a few years I think and possibly pre-dates the streaming boom. I think I had the same complaint in the late 2000s
Marvel is a soap opera - they’re massive tv serials that just happen to get shown at the cinemaAlso there does seem to be a problem with screen storytelling even in movies at the moment where writers don't know how to tell a story efficiently. Like lightweight films like Eternals being two and a half hours long? It's a silly superhero fantasy ffs, not War and Peace. Casablanca is an hour and forty two minutes you idiots. What makes you think LENGTH is a virtue? But that's been going on for a few years I think and possibly pre-dates the streaming boom. I think I had the same complaint in the late 2000s
You can't hear the strong Russian accent mixed in with the American accent, the latter of which is all over the place ? And she doesn't need to attempt at a German impersonation here. There aren't many recordings of Sorokin, especially not as her Delvey persona, so Garner also had to go by descriptions of what she speaks like.Yes I’m familiar with the story and read about the show before too, but her accent is most certainly not true to Sorokin/Delvey, who had/has a pretty much American accent. She does keep lapsing into southern-belle American, like her Ozark character, then goes back to whatever else she’s doing, which you can tell isn’t part of the plan. The inconsistency gives it away rather than supports it. Otherwise Garner’s performance is ok. She’s a good actress.
I’m going to wait and see what others think of the show and perhaps pick it up later. The problem for me is that the first episode is deadly slow and boring, and there are eight more. Probably more suited to a film or 3-parter.
Very true. Tiger King is an interesting story, but not a series.Many Netflix shows put me off cos they’re too long, especially the scandalous trash docs like Tiger King. Stories like that deserve an hour at best. He says with no knowledge of the story but you know what I mean.
Badly done accents can ruin scenes/films though - Oldman's cod Jamaican in True Romance; Dicaprio's Irish in Gangs of NY. If you're thinking about how crap the accent is, you're not watching the film.I find the obsession with accents and dialects on Urban weird, so many people here fancy themselves the utmost authority on every accent in the English language, spoken by anybody ever and then come down like a town of bricks on performances where the accent doesn't live up to their idea of what it should be, as if accents are an exact science.
You can't hear the strong Russian accent mixed in with the American accent, the latter of which is all over the place ? And she doesn't need to attempt at a German impersonation here. There aren't many recordings of Sorokin, especially not as her Delvey persona, so Garner also had to go by descriptions of what she speaks like.
'Fake heiress' Anna Sorokin details life after prison in ABC News interview
"I would like to show the world that I'm not this dumb, greedy person," she told ABC's Deborah Roberts.abc7chicago.com
I find the obsession with accents and dialects on Urban weird, so many people here fancy themselves the utmost authority on every accent in the English language, spoken by anybody ever and then come down like a town of bricks on performances where the accent doesn't live up to their idea of what it should be, as if accents are an exact science.
If you were to hear me speak English, I'm pretty sure my accent would be deemed very inauthentic, any actor imitating it would get slated here. I have a German accent, the strength of which changes depending on my mood and concentration, mixed in with an English accent which reflects that I mostly lived in London. There also are US and Australian expressions which I picked up when I lived in those countries. Americans rarely pick up on my German accent and think I'm British. When I lived in California, I Americanised my accent, simply to make myself better understood, so there it was different again. Germans can't place my accent at all when I speak German, due to the way I was raised and because my parents come from opposite ends of the country.
You're not an actor though. Poor accents can ruin performances because they can become the focus of attention. Either do them well or don't do them at all.
There must be an actor version of Godwin for this, but never harmed Sean Connery's screen presence/career...
What it does for the actor's careers doesn't concern me. It's about how it affects my enjoyment of the show.
Well of course. If you don't know that the accent is nonsense it's not going to bother you. The guy who plays Escobar in Narcos, is Brazilian, so perhaps Colombians think he speaks Spanish with a strange accent or perhaps he can speak accentless Spanish. Like you, I couldn't tell the difference so didn't care. American actors fucking-up European accents though, we're more likely to notice.Surely down to whether the viewer is familiar with proper accents, though? As in aforementioned Narcos... or perhaps, if the viewer is a fan of the actors involves and might allow certain leeway with the delivery?
Well of course. If you don't know that the accent is nonsense it's not going to bother you. The guy who plays Escobar in Narcos, is Brazilian, so perhaps Colombians think he speaks Spanish with a strange accent or perhaps he can speak accentless Spanish. Like you, I couldn't tell the difference so didn't care. American actors fucking-up European accents though, we're more likely to notice.
Brad Pitt in the enjoyably silly Snatch yarn springs to mind.
But Jane Leeves accent in Frasier was odd, considering she's British.
Try watching Married at First Sight Australia! (Don’t really though) 40 bleeding episodes per series, each one over an hour of dross, padded out into 90 min episodes by All4 with the addition of too many ad breaks.Many Netflix shows put me off cos they’re too long, especially the scandalous trash docs like Tiger King. Stories like that deserve an hour at best. He says with no knowledge of the story but you know what I mean.
If you like true crime stuff and documentaries about confidence tricksters/fraudsters etc. then I recommend The Tinder Swindler.
It's a documentary film one off rather than one of these series that drags it out to too many episodes requiring a large investment of time to watch it and with too many recaps, this is a nicely paced sit and watch in one go job.
Another vote for this one. Gripping in a “car crash tv” kinda way. You just know he‘s never gonna change though. I wonder how many people he will have damaged by the time his life is over.Tinder Swindler
True stories of women swindled out of money by the same guy
Very interesting.
So this sounds similar to the Puppet Master, right?Another vote for this one. Gripping in a “car crash tv” kinda way. You just know he‘s never gonna change though. I wonder how many people he will have damaged by the time his life is over.
More a dating swindler.So this sounds similar to the Puppet Master, right?
I have no idea.So this sounds similar to the Puppet Master, right?
More a dating swindler.
Absolute knob.
But his face is out there now. So women should know him.