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Nanothermite and the World Trade Center
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I think Jazzz may be quite keen to partition off a sub-thread in which his arse is being handed to him on a plate, presumably in the hope that he can somehow salvage whatever he thinks of as credibility on the "nanothermite" question
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
So the orignal arse-handing on the licence fee thread has now provoked two more arse-handing threads 
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
He'll be happy, though, because he's no longer being challenged on the TV licence thread, so can pull his usual stunt of claiming victory by default.So the orignal arse-handing on the licence fee thread has now provoked two more arse-handing threads
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
So the orignal arse-handing on the licence fee thread has now provoked two more arse-handing threads
Nuclear loon fission.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
We need the equivalent of control rods to make sure we don't have a meltdown...
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Free fall style.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
You're asking questions he doesn't want to answer (probably because he's wrong). It's not personal.will someone ask him about the fema camps? he doesn't want to answer me
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
(this should do it)will someone ask him about the fema camps? he doesn't want to answer me
FEMA camps? Load of rubbish - there's no evidence whatsoever for these so-called camps, and all the stuff I've ever seen about them has just been obviously faked photos.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
And so another Jazzz thread crashes and burns.
Badger Kitten
oof
Or was it shot down by hologram planes?
Edward Kelly
Well-Known Member
Are they the pictures of the camps with towers and high fences in them? (probly either an army camp or a paintball place or sumpting
.A guy I used to work with gave me a link to a website with these pics on them saying they were the US Gov. secret politicol prisoner camps etc.this was about 20 odd years ago as well so they've been floating around the net for a while.... absolutely no proof whatsoever but still believed ever single word about them.
WTF is a matter with these clowns?
quick edit...I liked the first paragraph on wiki...
Edward Kelly
Well-Known Member
..and yes they are the camps I've seen the pics of from almost 20 years ago
yes the ones that KBR were awarded $385 million to work on in 2006.
Leaked 2011 memo shows they were preparing to be operational
Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirements - KBR
This looks like an ominous recruitment drive:
INTERNMENT/RESETTLEMENT SPECIALIST (31E)
Edward Kelly
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I said nearly 20 years ago but after a think closer to 15 I'd say...
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
RESULT!
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
...Into a tall office building primed to blow with super secret military grade nanothermite and masses of exotic and unstable high-explosive ready to take that shit down on live TV and all sponsored by the 'jew world order'*.
(* ©David Icke and fellow loon travellers )
Ah, a link to infowars, that settles everything. Good work, detective jazzz.
A part of me really wishes you would plug yourself into the plug socket, this conspiracy theory infowars lunacy causes real damage. Case in point, this guy, who sheltered 6 children after the newtown shooting, who's being harassed by Alex Jones infowarriors for being a "actor" put upto it by the govt part of the propaganda flase flag campaign to take their guns and enslave them in marxist dystopia etc etc
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/15/this_man_helped_save_six_children_is_now_getting_harassed_for_it/
A part of me really wishes you would plug yourself into the plug socket, this conspiracy theory infowars lunacy causes real damage. Case in point, this guy, who sheltered 6 children after the newtown shooting, who's being harassed by Alex Jones infowarriors for being a "actor" put upto it by the govt part of the propaganda flase flag campaign to take their guns and enslave them in marxist dystopia etc etc
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/15/this_man_helped_save_six_children_is_now_getting_harassed_for_it/
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Fucking scumbags. They do do real damage and actually some of the theories they promote are the results of real government/"elite" conspiracies. The protocols of the elders of zion being one of them.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
The wackiest theories create white noise than means the real misdeeds of governments are harder to identify. I imagine there are a lot of individual examples of dodgy dealings and incompetence that occured in the wake of 9/11 that will never be uncovered or taken seriously because they're drowned out by the nonsense.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
they divert real opposition to what has happened into pseudo religious mystical bollocks and fascism - by that i mean fascist ideas on how to "replace" capitalism, fascist theories as to who is to blame and the nature of society, not a structural critique but blaming individuals and groups, viewing everyone as a shapless mass who needs to "wake up" and so on.
that is exactly their function - they channel any opposition and any attempt to find the truth about this shit down a completely fruitless blind alley
Yup, folks like Jazzz lowest of the low. I wonder what people you find lurking around the "Sandy Hook truth movement" I bet it's a cesspit full of the same Ickeans and Infowarriors that are kindred spirits of Jazzz.
Whilst we're at it, and if you like nice scary scaremongering graphs, here I found that article whilst reading this one on Salon, about the the rise in radical right-wing patriot and/or militia groups
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/06/radical_right_wing_groups_reach_all_time_high/
I think (just briefly) the election of a black president, and the recession, can be seen as one of the causes of this rise, but perhaps what's most worrying thing is how the idea's associated with this radical fringe are being increasingly appropriated by the republican party and making their way into mainstream. Like for example the fashion for doomsday prepping and hording weapons, which has it's own TV series now, which is a fascinating insight into the psyche of paranoid middle-class america. Notice how when these people cite the upcoming "global economic meltdown" the editors helpfully cut away to shots from the UK student riots, Occupy wall street, and anti-austerity riots throughout Europe? Notice how they're neary all white and middle class and scared of the mob coming and taking their property? There's a racial overtone here, which is roughly that when the govt can't afford to feed all those black people with their entitlements in the inner cities they'll start mobbing up and looting all the nice white suburbs. And Fox News and the republican media feeds this narrative costantly. This isn't a narrative that is being held back by the "elite" it's coming from the elite in many respects. This apocalyptic mindset is increasingly being taken up by the just about "respectable" right in the US.
And another example like this are the little planned towns being made by and for right-winger, like the Citadel, which are basically giant boltholes for reactionary white American who feel culturally threatened by modern American to go hide themselves in. This is an interesting trend. Now this sort of thing has history on the fringe right, Stormfront is at any given point full of dozens of failed attempts by gangs of white supremecists to start little encalves where they'll be "free of the Jew-Zog media" and where everyone will be racially pure, but we're seeing that being taken up by more high-profile figures such as Glenn Beck, who's own version of this Independence USA was hilariously torn to bits by Jon Stewart (link might not be playable, oh yeah and btw check out this for some hilarity oh what's that in the comments, oh nevermind "Notice that Jon Stewart is a rich Jew. It's always the Jew 1% who want the weapons." The Jew 1%? Did Occupy coin that phrase? hmmm) Anyway just out of curiosity this stuff, planned utopian communities etc, also a history on the left going right back to Robert Owen and New Lanark, I'd be interesting in doing a comparison between the two to be honest.
What's interesting is how even though they style themselves as being against an elite, but in actual fact what they're doing is being a buttress for the ruling class. The fact this sort of thing is it partially generated by Fox News and the republican party should be a good indicator of how "anit-elitist" these idea's are. It might drape itself in anti-establishment rhetoric, and find support from a legitimate sense of alienation that people feel towards the state and liberal democracy, but just like the protocols it's based on a falsehood, and is ultimately harnassed by the state to protect it, to misdirect it's opponents. It's like it's a weird 21st century American yeomanry or Church and King mob, desperately fighting to protect the established order and their priviliged place within it, or like they're some sort of frontier militia here to protect all the god fearing white folks from the savage natives and slaves. There's a sort of implicit understanding, even though it's phrased in this revolutionary, anti-elitist rhetoric, that there's a certain subsection of the middle class who are comfortable with their position in the system and who feel they have a lot to lose if that system is comes under threat from wild packs of welfare addicted ethnic minorites who start looting and expropriating the expropriators. I'm wittering on but the dynamics of all this are very interesting and worth reading more into. You can tell a lot about where we're at ideologically from looking at this sort of stuff I reckon.
Whilst we're at it, and if you like nice scary scaremongering graphs, here I found that article whilst reading this one on Salon, about the the rise in radical right-wing patriot and/or militia groups
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/06/radical_right_wing_groups_reach_all_time_high/
I think (just briefly) the election of a black president, and the recession, can be seen as one of the causes of this rise, but perhaps what's most worrying thing is how the idea's associated with this radical fringe are being increasingly appropriated by the republican party and making their way into mainstream. Like for example the fashion for doomsday prepping and hording weapons, which has it's own TV series now, which is a fascinating insight into the psyche of paranoid middle-class america. Notice how when these people cite the upcoming "global economic meltdown" the editors helpfully cut away to shots from the UK student riots, Occupy wall street, and anti-austerity riots throughout Europe? Notice how they're neary all white and middle class and scared of the mob coming and taking their property? There's a racial overtone here, which is roughly that when the govt can't afford to feed all those black people with their entitlements in the inner cities they'll start mobbing up and looting all the nice white suburbs. And Fox News and the republican media feeds this narrative costantly. This isn't a narrative that is being held back by the "elite" it's coming from the elite in many respects. This apocalyptic mindset is increasingly being taken up by the just about "respectable" right in the US.
And another example like this are the little planned towns being made by and for right-winger, like the Citadel, which are basically giant boltholes for reactionary white American who feel culturally threatened by modern American to go hide themselves in. This is an interesting trend. Now this sort of thing has history on the fringe right, Stormfront is at any given point full of dozens of failed attempts by gangs of white supremecists to start little encalves where they'll be "free of the Jew-Zog media" and where everyone will be racially pure, but we're seeing that being taken up by more high-profile figures such as Glenn Beck, who's own version of this Independence USA was hilariously torn to bits by Jon Stewart (link might not be playable, oh yeah and btw check out this for some hilarity oh what's that in the comments, oh nevermind "Notice that Jon Stewart is a rich Jew. It's always the Jew 1% who want the weapons." The Jew 1%? Did Occupy coin that phrase? hmmm) Anyway just out of curiosity this stuff, planned utopian communities etc, also a history on the left going right back to Robert Owen and New Lanark, I'd be interesting in doing a comparison between the two to be honest.
What's interesting is how even though they style themselves as being against an elite, but in actual fact what they're doing is being a buttress for the ruling class. The fact this sort of thing is it partially generated by Fox News and the republican party should be a good indicator of how "anit-elitist" these idea's are. It might drape itself in anti-establishment rhetoric, and find support from a legitimate sense of alienation that people feel towards the state and liberal democracy, but just like the protocols it's based on a falsehood, and is ultimately harnassed by the state to protect it, to misdirect it's opponents. It's like it's a weird 21st century American yeomanry or Church and King mob, desperately fighting to protect the established order and their priviliged place within it, or like they're some sort of frontier militia here to protect all the god fearing white folks from the savage natives and slaves. There's a sort of implicit understanding, even though it's phrased in this revolutionary, anti-elitist rhetoric, that there's a certain subsection of the middle class who are comfortable with their position in the system and who feel they have a lot to lose if that system is comes under threat from wild packs of welfare addicted ethnic minorites who start looting and expropriating the expropriators. I'm wittering on but the dynamics of all this are very interesting and worth reading more into. You can tell a lot about where we're at ideologically from looking at this sort of stuff I reckon.
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