myers briggs - what are you ?

[kabbes]

Great posts kabbes

Thank you!

 

[weltweit]

Apparently at the moment I am a ESFJ-A which is odd because I am pretty sure I have never been one of those when I took the tests before.

Just looked at their summary of ESFJ-A, a "Consul" apparently. It definitely isn't me.

 

[danny la rouge]

RIP Myers Briggs. He was one of the great characters in Coronation Street, during what I thought of as its golden age. I watched for decades, but when he and the Duckworths were gone, they took a turn towards Eastenders type sensationalism and I lost interest.

 

[kabbes]

I liked the Duckworths crossover with Lewis in which they had to come up with a way to settle rain-affected cricket matches

 

[Doodler]

Briggs Myers is probably slightly more informative than asking someone what their star sign is. Hans Eysenck believed there was something to the former, but then again he thought people who were cancer-prone were more likely to become smokers.

Big 5's traits at least seem clearly defined and therefore should be falsifiable. If archivists score low on conscientiousness and high on extraversion and timeshare sales reptiles show the opposite pattern, something's up.

 

[Knotted]

I totally agree with you about Myers Briggs. Whichever angle you come at it from, it has serious conceptual problems.

The problem with the idea of things like OCEAN, though (and even more with MBTI) is that it places ideas like "preference" and "attitudes" entirely within the individual rather than in the situation, the relationships within the system containing that situation and the nature of the cultural tools that individual has absorbed in order to interpret a given situation. Even to say that somebody is "open minded about food" makes a whole host of assumptions about common-sense and cultural notions of what food is, the context food is eaten in, who food is eaten with, how it is cooked and so on. "Open-minded" is almost certainly bounded within those notions, so it isn't really about the individual being "open-minded" as a static property of that individual, it's about what the range of cultural contexts are that contain the pre-requisite level of contextual affinity for that individual.

I don't see OCEAN as placing preferences and attitudes entirely within the individual, and if it does it's a quick fix to change it. You can view it as how the individual tends to act in a world in its various contexts. In answering a question about how open minded about food you are, you could compare yourself with others of similar background in similar cooking contexts and make some reasonable sense of the question.

 

[campanula]

I am a logician (apparently) which qualifies me to call bullshit...or at best, a very blunt instrument to batter at the conceptual walls of our desire to name and categorise.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Absolutely this. They have no merit or basis in any kind of proven science. An utter waste of time.

I said it was complete bollocks (or words to that effect) in front of a training bod at work. Don't think it went down too well.

 

[kabbes]

I don't see OCEAN as placing preferences and attitudes entirely within the individual, and if it does it's a quick fix to change it. You can view it as how the individual tends to act in a world in its various contexts. In answering a question about how open minded about food you are, you could compare yourself with others of similar background in similar cooking contexts and make some reasonable sense of the question.

I’m alright with that, actually. I’ll buy the idea that within a given context, people will have had different past experiences that could (if you had perfect information) provide a level of predictability as to how they would then individually react to a novel situation. I think that the label of “personality” is unhelpful for this predictability, not least because it implies common-sense characteristics for the way it works that I don’t see any reason to think are true (such as innateness or essentialism or being static or context-free). However, there is not nothing.

 

[savoloysam]

INFJ - (same result after doing the test twice, months apart)

Apparently we are only supossed to make 1% but when I was on twitter all i saw was INFJ so fuck knows what is going down there.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

This looks interesting - a film about the dodgy nature of this shite.

'They become dangerous tools': the dark side of personality tests

In the documentary Persona: The Dark Truth Behind Personality Tests, the discriminatory nature of a widely used tool is put under the microscope

www.theguardian.com

 

[Orang Utan]

INFP. I think it's most likely bollocks but it feels very true for me

You, me and Mation have the same four letters, what other four letters do we have in common?

 

[belboid]

Apparently I'm a diplomat.

Something I'm sure every fucking cunt on these boards will agree with.

 

[Clair De Lune]

You, me and Mation have the same four letters, what other four letters do we have in common?

Dick

 

[Orang Utan]

Dick

? Was just thinking that there may be something in it after all, but that it also may be a stick to beat us with too.
ETA - d’oh you were just answering my question

 

[Mation]

You, me and Mation have the same four letters, what other four letters do we have in common?

Am relieved to see that my previous post on this thread reflected my feeling that this is a horoscope, in which we see lots of generic things and thence recognise them.

However. Yeah

 

[Mation]

Dick

Wrong thread/post?

e2a: like them/have one?

 

[Orang Utan]

Wrong thread/post?

Four letters innit

 

[Clair De Lune]

Yeah sorry...was just joking...should have written D I C K

 

[The39thStep]

Mine always used to come out as ENTJ . Most assessment centres I've gone through have mix and matched M-B, Belbin , WAVE or OCEAN with observed role play things like negotiations, project planning or simulations. One of the things that I did change on over the years was sensing/intuition

 

[Clair De Lune]

Am relieved to see that my previous post on this thread reflected my feeling that this is a horoscope, in which we see lots of generic things and thence recognise them.

However. Yeah

I agree mostly with this TBF...but I will say that I've correctly predicted friends having the same outcome to this as I have. Infp's I get on v well with.
Meh who knows.

 

[Mation]

Yeah sorry...was just joking...should have written D I C K

Stop embarrassing me by leaving off the very potentially correct related-to-sex options

 

[Clair De Lune]

Stop embarrassing me by leaving off the very potentially correct not-related-to-sex options

Ok ok we all like dicks

 

[Mation]

Ok ok we all like dicks

'scuse my erroneous 'not'.

I think. Confused now.

 

[Clair De Lune]

'scuse my erroneous 'not'.

I think. Confused now.

Me too (((cwtch)))

 

[Orang Utan]

Ok ok we all like dicks

I only like one!

 

[Clair De Lune]

I only like one!

It's the only one you've tried though I'm guessing

 

[Mation]

Myers Briggs ADHD Takeover Massive! (Or the other way round!)

(And other things young people [used to?] say!)

 

[Knotted]

You, me and Mation have the same four letters, what other four letters do we have in common?

When I did it at school I came out as INFP as well.

[I would expect to find patterns in this sort of test even if it is reflecting self image rather than anything deep.]

 

[Knotted]

The annoying thing is is that I've remembered that from three decades ago. It's like it's imprinted a stamp on me that I can't remove.