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My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding

Paddy's just setting himself up as the celebrity gypsy. He comes across quite well I think but whenever the similar Salford folk have done the same it's turned out badly in the end. Here he is looking a tad younger...



As for the fighting I'm no boxing expert but a mate at work who's had a few fights claims the gypsies are technically poor and don't generally make good fighters. The stance is like something from a victorian fairground. Witness the disaster that is Tyson Fury......although his Dad is obviously a bit hard.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereve..._out_after_12_year_grudge_over_bottle_of_beer
 
i'm not talking about the being technically good at winning a boxing match, i'm talking about them being able slaughter anyone else in a street fight. POW!
 
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It turned out that the sweet-talking, tattoo-sporting pikey...
...was a gypsy bare-knuckle boxing champion.
Which makes him harder than a coffin nail.
Right now that's the last thing on Tommy's mind.
 
I can't help thinking that, as with certain other religious and ethnic "traditional lifestyles", you're bound to find the blokes wanting to keep things as they are: they get to rule the roost, keep "their woman" at home, looking after their men, knowing their place, etc etc. While they get to do all the exciting and manly stuff like fighting, drinking, gambling, showing off, driving like nutters, shagging around, making money sometimes from fairly dodgy sources, whatever.

If any bloke without the "protection" of a "traditional culture" to hide behind, expressed the same attitudes and behaved in the same way towards his wife / daughters / women in general, he would be generally disapproved of, and considered an anchronism and a neanderthal.

Giles..
 
I was speaking to my mate last night who works in children's services for the local council, closely with a traveller liaison officer who tries to guide the traveller kids through some sort of education. This week he was distributing laptops to families, because if the kids have laptops they can do homework, and secondarily it could get the parents interested (they currently aren't at all apparantly).

My friend lamented the programme's depiction of girls and their educational futures, but essentially said it would be almost kinder not to educate them at all past a certain age, because what they did learn would only make them unhappy in their inevitable choice to marry and clean a house and cook. That seems like abandonment to me, like complete ignorance is better than partial, unfulfilled awareness - when surely any kind of awareness, no matter how unfulfilled, is better than none?
 
For those of you who missed this from '95, here's a brilliant Shane meadows short film King of the gypsies - throws different light on the Gypsy debate! :)
 
Wookey said:
I was speaking to my mate last night who works in children's services for the local council, closely with a traveller liaison officer who tries to guide the traveller kids through some sort of education. This week he was distributing laptops to families, because if the kids have laptops they can do homework, and secondarily it could get the parents interested (they currently aren't at all apparantly).

My friend lamented the programme's depiction of girls and their educational futures, but essentially said it would be almost kinder not to educate them at all past a certain age, because what they did learn would only make them unhappy in their inevitable choice to marry and clean a house and cook. That seems like abandonment to me, like complete ignorance is better than partial, unfulfilled awareness - when surely any kind of awareness, no matter how unfulfilled, is better than none?
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It's not abandonment, it's showing cultural sensitivity. :hmm:
 
Utopia said:
For those of you who missed this from '95, here's a brilliant Shane meadows short film King of the gypsies - throws different light on the Gypsy debate! :)
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That short film is like a polar opposite to Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
 
Come on Paulie, you know that's not good enough.

Have you watched the series?

I was saying to the mrs tonight how it's been pretty lame overall, like the first program stretched out, we haven't really learnt anything new.

If we've learnt anything at all.:hmm:
 
Travellers get all the blame around Croydon for pretty much every industrial theft, break in, plant theft, lead theft, cable theft every fucking thing gets blamed on them. Its the last acceptable racism for many. I had the threaten people with dismissal if they used the term Pikey.
 
Key moment for me:

Gypsy leader "We're decent, honourable, law abiding blah blah people..."

Random gypsy in background "Did he just say law abiding? lol :D"

: own goal :facepalm: :



I have to say some of the instances of supposed gypsy prejudice were nothing to do with them being gypsies. It was due to them being drunken noisy distruptive bastards (or in the case of the hotel expulsion just noisy bastards).

Brecon jazz has in recent years seen the increased heavy handiness / low tolerance for drunken lout behaviour by the police and it has nothing to do with gypsies.

I've also seen non-gyspies being thrown out of hotels for being loud and distruptive.

I'm afraid you really can't use the argument that being a drunken, loud, distruptive bastard is part of my culture (during these celebrations) and so arresting me for it is anti gypsy bias. Cause they arrest anyone for it throughout the year and it being part of your culture is no excuse.
 
he was standing next to the landlord at the time, hence me wondering if he was with him or the gipsys

you're probably right though!
 
The way the leader bloke told him to shut up struck me as something people who knew each other would say, rather than strangers.
 
I'm not too sure what Doherty is playing at with his latest media game but he is a tough fella who you wouldn't want to mess with, as are all of those who run travellers camps ime. It all smacks ofmmaking more £ from the huge current media attention, possibly in a deal made with the Joyce family, young one does a bit in jail but the mythology grows? The two owners of traveller camps that i know are feared and one (Del), is only little, i sensed he would expect to knock me out though. It's not a trade for a meek type.
 
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