Moscow concert hall shooting, 22 Mar 24

[teqniq]

What the fuck.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not so sure it's desperate dot-joining, max Blumenthal goes into some detail about how the Americans fuelled the rise of daesh in his management of savagery

The Management of Savagery by Max Blumenthal: 9781788732307 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

How America’s failed wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria have resulted in increased threats at home—from jihadist terrorism to the rise of Western ultra-nationalism. In the Management...

www.penguinrandomhouse.com

 

[LDC]

didnt mi5 and the cia fund isis in syria? does this make them a proxy?
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq | Seumas Milne

There's a significant and important difference between US support for some Syrian opposition groups ending up with some parts of IS/AQ, and them being directly funded which is what you say (and the article doesn't). Unless you're a simplisitic campist and the later suits your narrative.

 

[Pickman's model]

There's a significant and important difference between US support for some Syrian opposition groups ending up with some parts of IS/AQ, and them being directly funded which is what you say (and the article doesn't). Unless you're a simplisitic campist and the later suits your narrative.

This quote suggests otherwise

A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria.

 

[xenon]

What the fuck.

It's not implausible he said that, he says mad shit all the time but that clip sounds like a cut n paste job.

 

[LDC]

This quote suggests otherwise

Seamus Milne, also a simplistic campist. Surprised you're suggesting Blumenthal has anything worthwhile to contribute.

 

[gosub]

Alex Jones knows who was behind it.

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That cunt and has false flag attacks has learnt nothing.


RIP to the innocent victims of a terrorist atrocity

 

[Gromit]

What the fuck.

Looks deep fake to me.
Audience is cut and pasted in.

I really hope it’s not real.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

There's a significant and important difference between US support for some Syrian opposition groups ending up with some parts of IS/AQ, and them being directly funded which is what you say (and the article doesn't). Unless you're a simplisitic campist and the later suits your narrative.

I'm not sure there is that big a difference between directly funding them and turning a blind eye to an ally directly funding them, particularly when that ally is a major purchaser of your weapons, as Saudi Arabia is.

No lessons have been learned. That much is crystal clear.

 

[Pickman's model]

Seamus Milne, also a simplistic campist. Surprised you're suggesting Blumenthal has anything worthwhile to contribute.

Great ad homs. But more than a mite short on saying anything worth reading. Don't know why you bother posting shit like this

 

[Silas Loom]

It's not implausible he said that, he says mad shit all the time but that clip sounds like a cut n paste job.

Not fake. Not new. 2016.

Donald Trump calls Obama the 'founder of Isis'

Republican presidential nominee repeatedly refers to president as ‘Barack Hussein Obama’ and says Hillary Clinton is Isis co-founder

www.theguardian.com

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Looks deep fake to me.
Audience is cut and pasted in.

I thought all his audiences were like that.

 

[xenon]

Not fake. Not new. 2016.

Donald Trump calls Obama the 'founder of Isis'

Republican presidential nominee repeatedly refers to president as ‘Barack Hussein Obama’ and says Hillary Clinton is Isis co-founder

www.theguardian.com

Ha, Wow. With Trump it's so hard to tell. The inclusion of Rotten Hilary was one of the things made me think fake. As classic Trumpism from back then.

 

[gosub]

What the fuck.

The best bit of that is when it cuts back to the reporter..ends there but comes across like he's gobsmacked

 

[RD2003]

Medvedev’s current job seems to be to say absolutely mad things all the time so that his boss looks like a restrained centrist to the domestic audience.

Yes, this has been more than obvious from the start of the war in Ukraine, and there's clearly an element of 'theatre' there, seeing as he was widely viewed as western-friendly when president. He appears to have stepped into the shoes of Zhirinovsky.

 

[SpookyFrank]

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What the fuck.

Complete bollocks. Bush, Blair and the all those brave squaddies who invaded Iraq are the true founders of ISIS.

 

[Silas Loom]

Whether or not the Renault passengers had anything to do with this, or indeed whether or not there ever was a Renault, the announcement of an arrest is good news in that it doesn’t suggest the attack will be used as a pretext for escalation in Ukraine or mass mobilisation.

Bugger. Putin now linking the attacks to Ukraine. I retract the above.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Bugger. Putin now linking the attacks to Ukraine. I retract the above.

You can see Putin's point of view. All the hallmarks of a NATO operation.

 

[editor]

You can see Putin's point of view. All the hallmarks of a NATO operation.

What?

 

[The39thStep]

Bugger. Putin now linking the attacks to Ukraine. I retract the above.

 

[editor]

Like anyone can believe a word of what that filthy war criminal says.

 

[Silas Loom]

What?

A joke, I assumed.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

A joke, I assumed.

Perhaps a bit too deadpan. Sorry for any confusion.

 

[The39thStep]

Perhaps a bit too deadpan. Sorry for any confusion.

Not sure this audience is up to it tbh

 

[Petcha]

The Mail is actually covering this much better and more quickly than most other news outlets, including the accurate casualty numbers. Some not very nice pics of the suspects being arrested in the below link. Let's assume they won't be much longer for this world.

Moment Moscow massacre suspects 'were arrested'

Videos shared online show three different men, who Moscow claims were responsible for the attack at the Crocus City Hall on Friday, being detained by what appears to be soldiers.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Spymaster]

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Complete bollocks. Bush, Blair and the all those brave squaddies who invaded Iraq are the true founders of ISIS.

Oh shut up you boring fucking idiot.

 

[Raheem]

The Mail is actually covering this much better and more quickly than most other news outlets

Hmmm...

he was found hiding in a tree while trying to flee to Ukraine

 

[Silas Loom]

Hmmm...

They do it again later in the piece - “ the group en route to Ukraine”.

Just because you can chuck rubbish from Russian Telegram channels into Google Translate and get nine-year-old journalists to publish it on the clickbait madhouse section of a UK newspaper website “better and more quickly” than other sites on a Saturday doesn’t mean you really should.

Fucking Mail.

 

[Dogsauce]

Russians have been commenting that victims should have shouted ‘Navalny’ rather than ‘help!’ as that way the security services might have turned up quicker. Apparently it took them over an hour.

 

[Pickman's model]

Russians have been commenting that victims should have shouted ‘Navalny’ rather than ‘help!’ as that way the security services might have turned up quicker. Apparently it took them over an hour.

Not sure us in the UK are in any position to throw stones Manchester Arena Inquiry told police failed in response to bombing