Moscow concert hall shooting, 22 Mar 24

[Petcha]

They do it again later in the piece - “ the group en route to Ukraine”.

Just because you can chuck rubbish from Russian Telegram channels into Google Translate and get nine-year-old journalists to publish it on the clickbait madhouse section of a UK newspaper website “better and more quickly” than other sites on a Saturday doesn’t mean you really should.

Fucking Mail.

Oh grow up

 

[Silas Loom]

Oh grow up

You what? You think the Mail reporting that these Islamic State nutjobs are en route to Ukraine is okay?

 

[bcuster]

133 dead reported. A merciless massacre of innocents.

Russia should withdraw from Ukraine and retaliate; just like they did in Syria' where everyone lauded the power & effectiveness of the Russian air forces

 

[Pickman's model]

133 dead reported. A merciless massacre of innocents.

Russia should withdraw from Ukraine and retaliate; just like they did in Syria' where everyone lauded the power & effectiveness of the Russian air forces

Could you expand on the thought process behind your second paragraph?

 

[The39thStep]

Could you expand on the thought process behind your second paragraph?

He may have meant rétaliate.

 

[bcuster]

Could you expand on the thought process behind your second paragraph?

Putin could use the attack on the concert hall as a face-saving reason to withdraw from Ukraine and, just like the "manly man" he thinks he is, punish ISIS for what they've done..

 

[Pickman's model]

Putin could use the attack on the concert hall as a face-saving reason to withdraw from Ukraine and, just like the "manly man" he thinks he is, punish ISIS for what they've done..

Yeh. He could use it for a lot of things. But a fuck of a lot of russians have died in the smo, far more than 133. So a withdrawal on the grounds you propose isn't really on the cards. But a battering of the jihadis doesn't need the relocation of the entire Russian army

 

[bcuster]

putin must recognize that his invasion of Ukraine is, at best, a stalemate.; and he and his military have become despised and financially ruined because of it.
He may not need the entire weight of his ground forces to properly punish ISIS, but he will need his entire air & naval forces to do so

The ground troops in Ukraine will be defeated without air cover & naval power

Putin should withdraw from Ukraine and pound ISIS. He will be universally celebrated were he to do this...

 

[Silas Loom]

putin must recognize that his invasion of Ukraine is, at best, a stalemate.; and him and his military have become despised and financially ruined because of it.
He may not need the entire weight of his ground forces to properly punish ISIS, but he will need his entire air & naval forces
The ground troops in Ukraine will be defeated without air cover & naval power

Putin should withdraw from Ukraine and pound ISIS. He will be universally celebrated were he to do this...

Pounding ISIS isn’t as easy as firing rockets and drones at fixed infrastructure targets. Tricky without technical support from the likes of the NSA. Russia is pretty old-school when it comes to intelligence.

And, universally celebrated? Really? Even in Mariupol? I doubt his reputation is salvageable anywhere on earth.

 

[Pickman's model]

putin must recognize that his invasion of Ukraine is, at best, a stalemate.; and he and his military have become despised and financially ruined because of it.
He may not need the entire weight of his ground forces to properly punish ISIS, but he will need his entire air & naval forces to do so

The ground troops in Ukraine will be defeated without air cover & naval power

Putin should withdraw from Ukraine and pound ISIS. He will be universally celebrated were he to do this...

I think you should lay off the sauce. He doesn't need to redeploy all his forces. There's lots of people interested in killing daesh, the taliban, United states, and kurds to name but three. Perhaps go and have a sleep before you post again on this subject as you seem to have pulled the least likely 'solution' out of wherever your notions come from

 

[petee]

I think you should lay off the sauce. He doesn't need to redeploy all his forces. There's lots of people interested in killing daesh, the taliban, United states, and kurds to name but three. Perhaps go and have a sleep before you post again on this subject as you seem to have pulled the least likely 'solution' out of wherever your notions come from

you wanted comments, now you don't.

 

[planetgeli]

Well that was all a bit weird.

 

[Pickman's model]

you wanted comments, now you don't.

I did until I saw the dearth of nous behind his post.

 

[Dogsauce]

Not sure us in the UK are in any position to throw stones Manchester Arena Inquiry told police failed in response to bombing

It’s not the U.K. throwing stones here, read my post. Also complaints about there being an OMON (domestic security) station over the road yet still not a quick response. It’s fuelling conspiracy theories there and here.

 

[bcuster]

It's the middle of the day here and I don't drink or use drugs

My proposal, if implemented. could end the conflict in Ukraine, save face and deliver the punishment ISIS deserves

Maybe an overreach to say Putin would be "universally" lauded, and as to the likelihood of anything like this happening, it may not be great, but it is possible

 

[Dogsauce]

ISIS doesn’t have any hospitals or apartment blocks for Russia to bomb, I mean how exactly are they going to hit them?

 

[Pickman's model]

It's the middle of the day here and I don't drink or use drugs

My proposal, if implemented. could end the conflict in Ukraine, save face and deliver the punishment ISIS deserves

Maybe an overreach to say Putin would be "universally" lauded, and as to the likelihood of anything like this happening, it may not be great, but it is possible

This would be the daesh the United States and their allies spent many lives and much treasure destroying. Yeh, you're right - if he destroyed it'd be universally lauded not least for doing what all the president's soldiers couldn't do a few years back. But as I've said before, the issue of the war in Ukraine remains to be decided. It's strange you think he'd lose no face if he pivoted to whack daesh. He'd lose a lot more than that if he followed your prescription.

 

[bcuster]

ISIS doesn’t have any hospitals or apartment blocks for Russia to bomb, I mean how exactly are they going to hit them?

the same way they did it before


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwestern_Syria_offensive_(April–August_2019)the same way they did it last time

 

[The39thStep]

putin must recognize that his invasion of Ukraine is, at best, a stalemate.; and he and his military have become despised and financially ruined because of it.
He may not need the entire weight of his ground forces to properly punish ISIS, but he will need his entire air & naval forces to do so

The ground troops in Ukraine will be defeated without air cover & naval power

Putin should withdraw from Ukraine and pound ISIS. He will be universally celebrated were he to do this...

Are you using AI to write this?

 

[Pickman's model]

the same way they did it before


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwestern_Syria_offensive_(April–August_2019)the same way they did it last time

So you think the Syrian army is going to redeploy to ingushetia. It's certainly a novel idea

 

[Pickman's model]

Are you using AI to write this?

AU - artificial unintelligence

 

[bcuster]

Are you using AI to write this?

those are my thoughts. i admit they are on a high intellectual level...

 

[The39thStep]

Not sure us in the UK are in any position to throw stones Manchester Arena Inquiry told police failed in response to bombing

Not to mention the role of MI6 in fostering the bomber and his family

 

[The39thStep]

those are my thoughts. i admit they are on a high intellectual level...

True.

 

[Pickman's model]

those are my thoughts. i admit they are on a high intellectual level...

Above the Mariana trench but below the sea's miniscus

 

[Yossarian]

Like anyone can believe a word of what that filthy war criminal says.

Putin's probably decided that inventing links to the country he's already invaded will be a fuck of a lot easier than getting involved in Afghanistan again

 

[Pickman's model]

Putin's probably decided that inventing links to the country he's already invaded will be a fuck of a lot easier than getting involved in Afghanistan again

He wouldn't have to. Sure the taliban would be very happy for a subvention to support them fighting the common foe

 

[PTK]

didnt mi5 and the cia fund isis in syria? does this make them a proxy?
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq | Seumas Milne

This article does not state that the MI5 and CIA funded ISIS.

 

[discokermit]

putin must recognize that his invasion of Ukraine is, at best, a stalemate

russians are winning.

 

[Sweet FA]

putin must recognize that his invasion of Ukraine is, at best, a stalemate.; and he and his military have become despised and financially ruined because of it.
He may not need the entire weight of his ground forces to properly punish ISIS, but he will need his entire air & naval forces to do so

The ground troops in Ukraine will be defeated without air cover & naval power

Putin should withdraw from Ukraine and pound ISIS. He will be universally celebrated were he to do this...

Now this is the kind of analysis we've been waiting for