Putin will of course claim it was Whoever is most politically locally convenient. I don’t think this is a false flag one though. Because there’s simply no need for it.
Moscow concert hall shooting, 22 Mar 24
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Putin will of course claim it was Whoever is most politically locally convenient. I don’t think this is a false flag one though. Because there’s simply no need for it.
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
I have that poster on ignore as 99% of links are to often irrelevant webpages with no accompanying comment
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Part of the reason I think they're a bot.
Half of their links are deleted at source after they’ve posted anyway.
I think they are just a bit daft.Part of the reason I think they're a bot.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
I had made my comment regarding the situation in a prior post and had the images blurred
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
There's going to be questions asked about his dismissals of the warning, surely?Shit's been kicking off in Ingushetia for weeks.
Russian media: Fighting breaks out in Russia's Ingushetia republic
The fighting is reportedly localized in an apartment building where security forces have blockaded alleged militants. Eyewitnesses reported that the firefight involved grenade launchers and automatic weapons, but that the shooting has died down.www.yahoo.com
This could well be in retaliation for that, and for how it ended.
And as for the US Embassy warning and providing their sources...their sources appear to be the Russian security services themselves. The attack on Ingushetia was done because
Which makes Putin's statement about the US Embassy warning a bit stupid.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
where exactly?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
As ever, that would be true in any state that had a media that asked difficult questions - Russia doesn't, and shit, even one of the 'opposition candidates' in last week's election said he'd be voting for Putin....
Who gets the blame, both as the culprit and the corrupt/traitor/imbecile who let it happen, will be determined purely by what old Vlad decides are his best interests. Putin's genius isn't in getting people to believe his often ludicrous lies, it's in getting people to believe that everyone else believes his ludicrous lies, so you'd be best off keeping your views to yourself....
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Well for starters...which warning?
A lot is being made in the western media about the US warning given on March 7th (and, don't forget, only lasting 48 hours). So here's a timeline for you.
Special forces (yes them again) launch a special operation (yes that again) in Ingushetia on or around March 2nd. They kill 6 ISIS. All this is done in the name of; Security forces claimed that the fighters were planning a series of terrorist attacks throughout Russia.
On March 6th or 7th Russia claims to have foiled a terrorist attack on a mosque.
At which point the US issues it's prescient warning. Well, it would have been prescient if an attack hadn't already been foiled and Russia hadn't admitted days earlier they were in Ingushetia because of planned terrorist attacks. So not that prescient really. And only for 48 hours.
Idk. From where I'm sitting a lot is being made of a US warning that looks like it was already based on events taking place as opposed to some great intel.
Warning dissipates.
2 weeks later, bam. This.
I don't think Putin is in any trouble at all for his dismissals of western warnings. He will always claim whatever the west does is interference in affairs that should be his, not theirs. He would already have known from his own security services what was happening or likely to happen. He doesn't need the west for this. So he can portray the west how he likes. Nobody will care.
But that US warning? It looks like it came after an event, not before. Not prescient.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Wonder if the Renault had come via Azerbaijan or some other former Soviet republic
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
I wondered why the image was blurred. Didn't know you could do that. Not going to watch it though given the content.
Silas Loom
Man with glasses
Whether or not the Renault passengers had anything to do with this, or indeed whether or not there ever was a Renault, the announcement of an arrest is good news in that it doesn’t suggest the attack will be used as a pretext for escalation in Ukraine or mass mobilisation.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
If it stops Medvedev's spitting and drooling, then yes.
Dmitry Medvedev, the ex-president of Russia and now deputy chairman of its security council, wrote that “if it is established that they are terrorists of the Kyiv regime, it’s impossible to treat them and those who inspired them differently.
“They all should be found and relentlessly destroyed as terrorists. Including officials of the state that committed such an evil thing. Death for death.”
But "whether or not there ever was a Renault". Well, quite.
Silas Loom
Man with glasses
Medvedev’s current job seems to be to say absolutely mad things all the time so that his boss looks like a restrained centrist to the domestic audience.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Portuguese news reporting that death toll has risen to 93 and that 11 arrests have been made including 4 alleged theatre attackers . Portuguese government has condemned attack as has Guterres and the UN Security Council.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
I don’t really buy the ‘false flag’ thing as I’m not sure what the payback would be for Putin - he’s just been ‘elected’ so doesn’t need to boost his popularity, and I’m not sure they have the capacity to start security operations in the caucuses (though that could provide a reason for mobilisation I guess). Perhaps more draconian domestic security laws? Though my instinct with them already having absolute power is that they could just do that anyway without this.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Yeah, Putin only commits mass murder of Russian citizens to generate a pretext for war, he’s already got his war so doesn’t need any pretext right now.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
For one of the ‘false flags’ ahead of the recent Ukraine invasion they used already dead corpses, which gave it away as autopsy cuts were visible on charred skulls etc. They’re not particularly competent about this, but then most of the time they know much of their audience knows they are lying, and don’t particularly care.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
93 now dead. 93 people who did nothing more than go for a night out at a concert.
Fuck Islamic State, fuck their medieval death cult, and fuck any politician, blogger, influencer or god knows who else that seeks to further their own aims using this.
Fuck Islamic State, fuck their medieval death cult, and fuck any politician, blogger, influencer or god knows who else that seeks to further their own aims using this.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
In most terrorism cases arrests or the termination of the assailants is good news for the citizens of the country in which the event has occurred, possibly good news for the relatives of victims , may also reduce vigilantism and in cases where the assailants are from a minority help to manage community cohesion and possible backlashes against that community.
Recent reports in the media suggest Russia will increase its mobilisation against Ukraine ( 300k has been mentioned) , however by stealth rather than 'everybody in', in order to expand its territorial control of Ukrainian areas.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
didnt mi5 and the cia fund isis in syria? does this make them a proxy?
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq | Seumas Milne
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq | Seumas Milne
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Not so sure it's desperate dot-joining, max Blumenthal goes into some detail about how the Americans fuelled the rise of daesh in his management of savagery
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