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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

Remember that Watergate didn't bring down the Republican presidency, though. If the tories manage to replace Cameron and carry on, I don't quite see what has been achieved there. There needs to be a wedge driven between the tories and the libdems over this so that it doesn't just bring down Cameron, it brings down the government.

That's still a long way off, though, imo. A grovelling apology and admittance of a 'grave error of judgement' may well ensue, but not necessarily any resignation.

it would be a good start though, before this Cameron was having a fairly serene time as PM, despite not actually winning the election, he had tricked the Lib Dems into a coalition that could well fuck them for the future, sidelined Labour who were all over the shop trying to elect a new leader and then not being effective even then as an opposition, he had managed to get others to take the blame rather than him, now he is associated with the biggest political scandal in a generation - this is bigger than MPs lining their pockets -
 
Disco Dave is in a very awkward position. He cant cut Murdoch loose (like labour have done) but is under ever growing pressure to do so. The stench is rising - a news corporation that uses blackmail and survileance to get its way, bribes cops, employs criminals and all he can do is wring his hands and talk about 'lessons needs to be learned' whilst refusing to directly crticise them. Hes well behind the game - and the public. You know you've got problems if the Barkley Brothes have publicly out done you in the 'moral compass' stakes.
 
Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers: The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country; The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country; The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; The Financial Times is read by people who own the country; The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country; And The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is. Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.

Thanks for re-treading that 1970s-vintage "joke".
 
Disco Dave is in a very awkward position. He cant cut Murdoch loose (like labour have done) but is under ever growing pressure to do so. .

Oh, I think he can. I think he will have to. Along with grovelling admissions of an error of judgement, in the hope that that will be enough.
 
Brooks is toxic now, Murdoch's power was all about influence, getting his soldiers to have cosy chats with the Political elite - who is seriously going to have a cosy chat with toxic brooks now?
 
BBC needs to let us embed video! Watch that link to Question Time!

I watched the actual show.

High Grant was good, persuasive and knew a lot more about events than one might have expected. Including that the NL guy (name forgotten) on the panel had been to a NI drinks party just in the last week :) that was hilarious.
 
Oh, I think he can. I think he will have to. Along with grovelling admissions of an error of judgement, in the hope that that will be enough.

Yes - he will have to eventually, but it will only highlight how long he waited. His press confernce this morning is already clangingly out of step with events. News International is going down as we watch!
 
Oh, I don't disagree that she might well have perfect insight. I just don't think it's a foregone conclusion, nor that relevant. She's on the rollercoaster called 'no fucking choice' right now. :D

But what choice does she have? If she spills the beans, she also incriminates herself, so that doesn't save her from jail time. I get the impression that she is effectively doing nothing because she can't think of anything to do. Poor diddums is stuck.

True, but she wouldn't have to spill the beans if she went, and meanwhile sticking around may well not save her from a little chat with the Old Bill. She's in a very tight corner either way - as are her bosses - and I'm just intrigued as to why she's made the moves she has - and why they have too, especially in terms of not accepting her resignation when she apparently offered it. It's probably useless to continue speculating for now though ... and anyway, I'm going to knock off work and go to the pub shortly. :cool:
 
High Grant was good, persuasive and knew a lot more about events than one might have expected. Including that the NL guy (name forgotten) on the panel had been to a NI drinks party just in the last week :) that was hilarious.

he's not working on his own is he? he's clearly being regularly briefed, presumably by someone at the graun.
 
You do know that 'offering your resignation' and 'having it refused' are just normal parts of any situation like this? It doesn't mean she meant it, and she knew they wouldn't accept it before she gave it, otherwise she wouldn't have done so. They ALWAYS say they offered to resign but it was refused, at this stage in the proceedings.
 
Grant was good in a bumbling , charming, foppish Hugh Grant sort of way, he had been well briefed that was clear - Gaunt just SHOUTED A LOT
 
@ExNOTWJourno not everyone will get jobs. 2 catergories: talented and untalented. Those who get jobs are being gagged. many not @ meeting are the 'untalented'
 
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