Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[marty21]

Hunt expected to delay decision on BSkyB takeover, according to the FT:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5f81603a-a890-11e0-8a97-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1RQQhxm9Y

Guardian said this morning that they could delay it fairly easily - just putting off making a decision and hoping that by September that things would have quietened down, unlikely I'd have thought - if the Police and the CPS get into gear

 

[ViolentPanda]

It's supposed to be threatening - continue advertising and bad stuff will happen to you.

The baddest stuff, in most advertiser's minds, being people stopping consuming their product.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Wrong. Advertisers are pulling out NOW. This is costing NOTW money NOW, before the paper has even hit the stands.

You're so wrong on this it hurts reading your crap. Don't you see, attacking them like this involves everyone who uses all the companies who advertise in it, not just the couple of million who actually buy it.

Advertisers who are choosing to pull out is fine. I'm against advertisers being bullied.

That is all.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The baddest stuff, in most advertiser's minds, being people stopping consuming their product.

Exactly. And it's actually a really easy business decision to pull advertising. It saves them money to pull the adverts.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

How are you making the millions aware?

Well the story is all over the other tabloids, it's all over the tv news, it's all over daytime-type telly, and it's all over facebook.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Advertisers who are choosing to pull out is fine. I'm against advertisers being bullied.

That is all.

you're a fucking idiot.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

you're a fucking idiot.

Thank you for your input.

 

[Ivana Nap]

Wrong. Advertisers are pulling out NOW. This is costing NOTW money NOW, before the paper has even hit the stands.

You're so wrong on this it hurts reading your crap. Don't you see, attacking them like this involves everyone who uses all the companies who advertise in it, not just the couple of million who actually buy it.

Actually it's not costing them money now - this weeks ads will already be paid for according to Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011...-eu-phone-hacking-murdoch-empire_8551810.html

 

[Teaboy]

Thank you for your input.

He's right though.

 

[dennisr]

Murdoch's 'Downfall' (it had to happen...):

 

[DrRingDing]

Advertisers who are choosing to pull out is fine. I'm against advertisers being bullied.

These are coporations. They have no feelings. They cannot be 'bullied'.

 

[dennisr]

Advertisers who are choosing to pull out is fine. I'm against advertisers being bullied.

That is all.

((((((((multi-million pound advertisers)))))))))

 

[dennisr]

These are coporations. They have no feelings. They cannot be 'bullied'.

In Elizabeth's world they can.... )

 

[weltweit]

Advertisers who are choosing to pull out is fine. I'm against advertisers being bullied.

That is all.

I don't think consumers making their feelings known to advertisiers is any kind of bullying. It is quite within their rights for consumers to make their views known and is in fact a well known anti-corporatist stance that consumers take organised action.

In fact there is a history of this going right back to Ralph Nader in the USA and GM vehicles, and probably a lot before that.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

These are coporations. They have no feelings. They cannot be 'bullied'.

The people who are likely to be hurt are the low-paid workers of the companies. If you all stop shopping at Tescos, who do you think will bear the brunt of that?

 

[ElizabethofYork]

I don't think consumers making their feelings known to advertisiers is any kind of bullying. It is quite within their rights for consumers to make their views known and is in fact a well known anti-corporatist stance that consumers take organised action.

In fact there is a history of this going right back to Ralph Nader in the USA and GM vehicles, and probably a lot before that.

No problem with making your views known. My problem is with some of the tactics being discussed here, like "fuck em hard in the face" and "do whatever it takes", which sound threatening.

 

[marty21]

The people who are likely to be hurt are the low-paid workers of the companies. If you all stop shopping at Tescos, who do you think will bear the brunt of that?

plenty of farmers might have a thing to say about that - Tescos and the other big supermarkets have driven down prices by reducing the amount they will pay to farmers for their fruit and veg -

 

[Roadkill]

The people who are likely to be hurt are the low-paid workers of the companies. If you all stop shopping at Tescos, who do you think will bear the brunt of that?

Like Tesco haven't been putting smaller firms out of business and their employees out of work for the last few decades...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The people who are likely to be hurt are the low-paid workers of the companies. If you all stop shopping at Tescos, who do you think will bear the brunt of that?

Tesco's loss is the local grocer's gain. So what? You think customers owe it to Tesco of all fucking people to spend their money there?

But as has been pointed out, they will pull their advertising long before that happens. That's the whole point - this is a business decision based on which action makes the company look better. and as has also been pointed out, it is not possible to bully a corporation, you utter fucking tool.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Like Tesco haven't been putting smaller firms out of business and their employees out of work for the last few decades...

Oh, that makes it okay then. Okay, fine.

 

[Teaboy]

The people who are likely to be hurt are the low-paid workers of the companies. If you all stop shopping at Tescos, who do you think will bear the brunt of that?

No they will not. I'll spell it out for you, which scenario do you think is more likely?

a) Tesco start a 8 week consultation period when a certain amount of people will be told they are at risk. They will then go through due process before finally selecting several candidates for redundency. They will then pay out accordingly for thoses leaving the business.

Or

b) Tesco pull a couple of adverts in one publication until the heat is off?

Which do you think is more likely?

 

[dennisr]

plenty of farmers might have a thing to say about that - Tescos and the other big supermarkets have driven down prices by reducing the amount they will pay to farmers for their fruit and veg -

...... and forcing many veg, milk and meat farmers out of business in the process

I love the fained concern of Lizzie - its like Murdoch, or Coulson, or Cameron or the lovely Rebecca showing their 'disgust'

 

[littlebabyjesus]

plenty of farmers might have a thing to say about that - Tescos and the other big supermarkets have driven down prices by reducing the amount they will pay to farmers for their fruit and veg -

Yep. bringing down Tesco would be a Brucie bonus in all this. Of course it won't happen because the people who run Tesco are not as fucking stupid as certain posters on this thread.

 

[dennisr]

you're a fucking idiot.

the problem is the idiot is about to de-rail another thread with his/her inanity

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Oh, that makes it okay then. Okay, fine.

It does, actually. If I could force Tesco out of business, I would. The harm they have done to the food production and retail systems of this country far outweigh the benefit they bring through the people they employ.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

It does, actually. If I could force Tesco out of business, I would. The harm they have done to the food production and retail systems of this country far outweigh the benefit they bring through the people they employ.

That'll be of great comfort to the ex-cashiers when they're in the dole queue, I'm sure.

 

[Teaboy]

the problem is the idiot is about t ode-rail another thread with his/her inanity

True, idiot or troll. Enough is enough.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That'll be of great comfort to the ex-cashiers when they're in the dole queue, I'm sure.

Alright, I'll leave it alone now. The stupid fucking twat that it is.

 

[Badgers]

Well the story is all over the other tabloids, it's all over the tv news, it's all over daytime-type telly, and it's all over facebook.

Is it?

 

[killer b]

can this tedious derail be put to bed? maybe - as suggested last night - we should avoid having lengthy spats on this thread, so we can keep up to date without having to scroll through a bunfight?