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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

In Hackney we are swamped by Tescos and Sainsbury's - opening up large and little mini-supermarkets all over the place - between them trying to drive out of business the established shops in the area.
 
Oh, that makes it okay then. Okay, fine.

Seriously, fuck off. Your utterly retarded input has only served to strengthen my resolve.

I'll be doubling my efforts to "bully" Tescos and it'll be all your fault.

You see the ramifications of your actions??
 
No. Boycotting the paper itself, and making the millions of people who read it aware of what's been going on would be more effective, I think.



Most of us dont' read the paper anyway. Millions already know, if they're minded to stick a TV or radio on, read anything other than the NoTW. Through voiceing concerns to the advertisers and make them aware of who / what they're associating with by continuing to advertise in the NoTW. That is logical and having definite effects. How can you think there's something wrong with that tactic? Your sense of power balances is screwed up.
 
OK everyone ignore the fucktard and focus upon applying hurt to Tesco and anyone else not yet confirmed to have pulled ad space?
 
That'll be of great comfort to the ex-cashiers when they're in the dole queue, I'm sure.

Actually they will probably be in gainful paid employment at one of the myriad of smaller businesses that Tesco drive out of business, or better yet actually owning and running a business themselves.
 
And have a search on Pastebin for the complete list of NOTW jounos and their details.

Might want to call them and ask how is their day so far??

:D
 
No problem with making your views known. My problem is with some of the tactics being discussed here, like "fuck em hard in the face" and "do whatever it takes", which sound threatening.

But what do you think is meant by this, what apart from the targetted voicing of concern do you actually think any individuals on here are actually going to do?

Tesco stopping their ad campaign in NOTW is not going in the short term to affect at all how many people shop at Tesco. All it is going to do is make NOTW less financially viable for the period while the adverts are stopped.

And that seems a perfectly viable and ethical aim to me.
 
Actually they will probably be in gainful paid employment at one of the myriad of smaller businesses that Tesco drive out of business, or better yet actually owning and running a business themselves.

Precisely. Nobody wants to be a slave to the Cohen empire.
 
what kind of business pisses off there biggest customer

there's lots of people think they can get a bit of free PR out of this, lots of people got a reason to fuck over murdoch, lots more got a reason to suck up to him - this is just market shit playing out, capital will be stronger than ever

x factor for liberals

I may be a bit out-of-date, but last I knew, News International titles are all distributed by News International Distribution Ltd, and have been since Wapping, and WHS and J. Menzies' wholesale arms have no involvement with them.
 
Given that most "phone hacking" simply involves obtaining the mobile number of someone in the news, working out which network they are on, and then phoning the voicemail access number for that network, and typing in the "victim"s phone number and (if they have not set a PIN) listening to their voicemails, I can't believe that most of the papers (or their paid-but-not-directly-employed snoopers) have not been doing this. A lot.

The other papers must be breathing an (undeserved) sigh of relief.

It's rather like when protestors attack Tesco for being big, ruthless, ruining local high streets etc, and mostly ignore Sainsburys, Morrisons, Asda etc who are just as bad, just not the biggest.

Or the same when people slate McDs for selling overpriced, unhealthy food, bad employment practices etc, and ignore BK, KFC etc.

I'm sure most, if not all, of the papers have benefitted from information obtained in this way for years.

This has a lot further to go, I think.

Giles..
 
Given that most "phone hacking" simply involves obtaining the mobile number of someone in the news, working out which network they are on, and then phoning the voicemail access number for that network, and typing in the "victim"s phone number and (if they have not set a PIN) listening to their voicemails, I can't believe that most of the papers (or their paid-but-not-directly-employed snoopers) have not been doing this. A lot.

A burglar is still a burglar even if the door to the house is left open.

The rest of your post is just strawman drivel.
 
Hatred of Murdoch and his organsiation is rooted in hatred of what it has done to its many many victims over the past 30+ years. Direcetly - as in the case of the Hillsborough dead and the families of murdred kids - and indirecitly in its role as cheerleader in chief for all the nastiest poliies and hate campaigns since the 80s - campaings and policies that have created uncountable victims from the smashed communities of Thatchers wrecking ball, to refugees, immigrants and gay people beaten up, to the demonsiation of the poor and disabled to the 100s of thousands of corpses in Iraq.

Plus his own contribution to the Thatcherite agenda with Wapping and its' consequences.
 
I may be a bit out-of-date, but last I knew, News International titles are all distributed by News International Distribution Ltd, and have been since Wapping, and WHS and J. Menzies' wholesale arms have no involvement with them.

No, News International Distribution Ltd only handles distribution to the 130+ wholesaler depots, not direct to the retailers.

There's only about 5 independent wholesale depots, something like 97% of the market is in the hands of WHSmith & J. Menzies'.
 
BBC news ticker....Detectives investigating hacking expecting to contact nearly 4,000 potential victims

Four thousand?! If nothing else you've got to give the man credit for record keeping!
 
BBC news ticker....Detectives investigating hacking expecting to contact nearly 4,000 potential victims

Four thousand?! If nothing else you've got to give the man credit for record keeping!

BBC were saying 11,000 hacks this morning.
I think NI had admitted to 15 and claimed it was the end of the matter.
 
So what tactics do you suggest be used?

To be frank, the tactic of going after the supply lines (money and materiel) is entirely sound. Capture the "baggage train" and you inhibit room to manouvre for "the enemy". It's a tactic that's been successfully used for thousands of years, and it sometimes works to bring conflict to an end more quickly.

Perhaps EoY is suggesting a Father ted-like standing around with placards declaring "down with this sort of thing"?
 
BBC news ticker....Detectives investigating hacking expecting to contact nearly 4,000 potential victims

Four thousand?! If nothing else you've got to give the man credit for record keeping!

Given who he was dealing with, you cant blame him.
 
This time of the year is normally known as the 'Silly Season' in Fleet Street. It seems the BBC have excelled themselves with their articles and radio coverage.

The latest being the so called hacking of forces telephones. The article below is probably one of the very best at creating a story from pure conecture. Not a single fact!

Rose Gentle, whose son Fusilier Gordon Gentle died in Iraq in 2004, said it would be "pretty disgusting" if true.

The head of the armed forces, General Sir David Richards, said he would be "appalled" if the claims were proved.

Gen Richards said: "First of all we don't want to get ahead of ourselves because there's a police investigation ongoing, and we need to see the results of that. But I have to say if these actions are proved to be verified, I'm appalled, I find it quite disgusting."

Poor, poor reporting. Create an emotional knee-jerk article based on conjecture not fact. Shame on Radio 4's "Today" for carrying an interview with Ms. Gentle.

I look forward to C4's expose this evening.

BBC. We'll write anything to fill our web pages.

:p
 
BBC news ticker....Detectives investigating hacking expecting to contact nearly 4,000 potential victims

Four thousand?! If nothing else you've got to give the man credit for record keeping!

If he was routinely hacking that many phones it is no wonder he kept detailed records.
 
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