Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
... ended up being tasteless and dull.
Brown on the other hand was all over the shop, his claim (as elbows notes above) that he didnt know and wouldnt have approved of both the Watson anti-Blair plot, the briefing against colleagues, and the McBride / Draper / Whelan stuff was laughable - and will have damaged everything else that he was saying.
Innit. I was hoping for something juicy to come out of it, but no such luck.
John Major tomorrow. That'll be thrilling.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
so basically they are now admitting that the full extent of scrutiny of future likely problems re; phonehacking were a) asking Coulson and then b) asking Brooks. jesus, why didn't Jay and/or leveson really go to town on that one?
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Innit. I was hoping for something juicy to come out of it, but no such luck.
John Major tomorrow. That'll be thrilling.
Don't forget all the Scallywag stuff, plus there's Aitken getting his knees done by the Grauniad (David Leigh blagging wasn't it?), and Mellor too - plenty of juice ready to be squeezed if Mr Jay is in the mood.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Because they already know the answer to that question - IMHO by the time Coulson was appointed, NI knew what had gone on*, as did Labour, as (probably) did the Tories, as did the Police, as did most of Fleet Street (Flat Earth News being published in 2008) and so did many people in Westminster. They didnt conduct a further check because they already knew what Coulson had done, and didnt give a toss.
* ie the full extent of what had gone on, not just phonehacking
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What was there to fend off?
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
if you are right - and you probably are - then that is, literally, scandalous
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
see my last 2 posts; atrociously lax scrutiny of their chief spinner, given he'd been forced to resign in disgrace from his previous job
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Nothing to do with Osborne.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Anyone else watching this? Oborne is really going for them, its great TV.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
ermm...he was the prime mover in getting AC hired, I thought?
he made the initial approach, recommended him to Cameron with a phrase like "look what he did to us over 'hug a hoodie, now think what he can do for us"...or have I got this wrong?
Tried to, just couldn't take it in.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
nothing to do with leveson.ermm...he was the prime mover in getting AC hired, I thought?
he made the initial approach, recommended him to Cameron with a phrase like "look what he did to us over 'hug a hoodie, now think what he can do for us"...or have I got this wrong?
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Totally to do with Leveson: Module 3: The Relationship between Press and Politicians.
butchersapron
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We now have both Brown and Major saying Murdoch perjured himself. Blair didn't.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
it certainly is....as L_C just pointed out
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fair enough. Still don't think there was much to fend off at this point. After all - how could we have done the work that this committee and various police investigations have done at the cost of many millions and god knows how many hours of work. That's always an easy get-out at the end of this i'm afraid. For now anyway.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
yeah that's very true ("who d'you think we are - the FBI?"), and he'd willingly use it. more questioning on that matter would have been fun, 'tho
London_Calling
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fwiw, It's not a courtroom so Murdoch didn't commit perjury.
I have no idea why they wave the bible about at Public Inquiries - may be a reason but otherwise it looks like theatre.
I have no idea why they wave the bible about at Public Inquiries - may be a reason but otherwise it looks like theatre.
John Major tomorrow. That'll be thrilling.
And, apparently, it is being most considerably thrilling
He may wear his underpants on the outside, he may have been touchy about the world knowing that... and he definitely is a Tory. But
Murdoch's brazen lie to a public inquiry, under oath, definitely speaks to whether he's a "fit and proper person" to own a media corporation.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
wrong. Charges were considered for various soldiers who had obviously lied to the Saville Inquiry. I dont think any were actually brought tho
"Northern Ireland's Public Prosecution Service said it was investigating, with crown prosecutors in England, whether witnesses had committed perjury at the inquiry. "The Public Prosecution Service (PPS) has now received a copy of the Saville report, which refers to certain witnesses providing evidence to the inquiry which was knowingly untrue."
I think it is being held in a courtroom, and why bother with the oath if it can't result in perjury?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
London_Calling
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Brown would obv. know it was minuted, Murdoch wouldn't - assuming there wasn't another less 'official' call as well. Which there could have been given how close the two had been.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury#England_and_Wales
Is Leveson a "judicial proceeding" for the purposes of the Act ...
Sure, it's sitting in court 72 at the High Court. As to why... like I said, you wouldn't think Leveson himself would he comfortable with pure theatre so perhaps there is a reason I'm not aware of. In the meantime, s1(2) here really isn't helpful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury#England_and_Wales
Is Leveson a "judicial proceeding" for the purposes of the Act ...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I thought this cunt had been sent midlands way?
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
You talking to me, Butch?
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