Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[frogwoman]

No one gave a shit when it was only celebs being hacked tho, really. And, despite them generally being almost as wanky as the NoW, there's no evidence (yet) that the Mirror were also going after murdered schoolkids

Exactly.

 

[weltweit]

I see Watson has referred this issue of James Murdoch's testimony and its contradiction by former NotW employees, as refers to the For Neville email, to the MET Police for investigation.

 

[agricola]

I see Watson has referred this issue of James Murdoch's testimony and its contradiction by former NotW employees, as refers to the For Neville email, to the MET Police for investigation.

Isnt it for Parliament to investigate (and deal with) persons who are in contempt of it?

 

[weltweit]

Isnt it for Parliament to investigate (and deal with) persons who are in contempt of it?

What he seemed to be saying was that if James Murdoch had had knowledge of the For Neville email at the time his former colleagues are claiming then he could be guilty of perverting the course of justice.

 

[contadino]

In the MoD it is 75 days on average, at least according to this pdf.

It looks like things may have sped up since my day. Mine took about 6 months, and was necessary in order for me to have any contact with cabinet ministers (as in it was necessary for me to report TO cabinet ministers.) All the information I used was from the public domain, so it's not like I was privy to anything that I knew to be sensitive. IIRC, I think the same restriction applied to me in contact with cabinet advisors.

In that environment, it would have been unthinkable for Coulson to have been allowed to brief the PM, let alone attend PM briefings. So either things have changed significantly, or there is a rat to be smelt.

 

[agricola]

What he seemed to be saying was that if James Murdoch had had knowledge of the For Neville email at the time his former colleagues are claiming then he could be guilty of perverting the course of justice.

Perhaps, though given that there wasnt actually a trial (IIRC it was settled before it got that far) its hard to see how he could make that work.

 

[belboid]

Perhaps, though given that there wasnt actually a trial (IIRC it was settled before it got that far) its hard to see how he could make that work.

because if he'd seen it, he'd have had proof that the hacking went beyond Mulcaire and Goodman?

 

[agricola]

because if he'd seen it, he'd have had proof that the hacking went beyond Mulcaire and Goodman?

Yes, but I am sure his defence (if it ever got to trial) would point out that the Police, the CPS, the DPP and the Attorney General all knew that as well (and had done since before James Murdoch).

 

[butchersapron]

Not much of defence is it though?

 

[agricola]

Not much of defence is it though?

To perverting the course of justice it would be - after all, how has justice actually been perverted? All the relevant bodies knew about this at least a year before James Murdoch did, and in any case he (and his company) did actually make restitution for what they had done. It might be less of a defence for being in contempt of parliament - but if they are going to set a (welcome) precedent of imprisoning people for lying to the House and its committees, then you would think it would be open season on Blair, Vaz et al.

 

[Dan U]

given what just may have happened in Oslo, i guess NI and the Tories will be scrambling to bury bad news later today.

 

[gavman]

I think the - frankly disgusting - Times cartoon says more about just how fucking desperate the murdoch/cameron/met cabal are to move on from this story.

The very first postings on gaurdian comment Cif from their Tory Trolls took exactly the same angle - hysteria whipped up by the lefties at the grauan and bbc, ordinary people are bored, more important things move along now.

this was the angle newsnight took, to their disgrace. they do an impersonation of impartiality, but when the stakes are high that goes straight out of the window and they become craven to the government. reminds me of the despicable wikileaks coverage, with kirsty clueless trying to make it a feminist issue, claiming assange was getting away with rape because the media was overlooking the rights of the 'victims' in sweden

 

[gavman]

Well I was amazed that he seems to have escaped completely unscathed after the dodgy dossier episode.

he cried on the telly and got off. he's paul mcmullen's inspiration

 

[weltweit]

Well Tom Watson seemed to think it was a big deal, this discrepancy between who knew what and when, he was on the BBC News channel looking like the cat that had got the cream while John Whittingdale was later interviewed during a parliament shooting outing at Bisley, he seemed slightly less enthusiastic.

 

[weltweit]

he cried on the telly and got off. he's paul mullen's inspiration

It is amazing to me that they produced a dodgy dossier based on stuff cut from the internet about something as serious as war and as far as I can tell no one was punished for this.

 

[ferrelhadley]

Some people are claiming they have been offered free copies of The Times at WH Smiths.

 

[contadino]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/22/uk-newscorp-lewis-idUKTRE76L30S20110722

News Corp leaked the sting on Vince Cable, apparently.

 

[cybertect]

Crikey!

Lewis/Peston again.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Private Eye must love this, they've run loads of stuff about Lewis' departure from TMG & Euston.

 

[weltweit]

There was apparently going to be a bit on NewsNight tonight about how the hacking scandal was about to spread to another tabloid.

Did anyone see that, which paper it was about?

 

[killer b]

mirror

 

[weltweit]

mirror

aha, thanks, any more details?

 

[killer b]

dunno, someone's fb update. i expect it'll be all over the internet by now though. maybe google it?

 

[weltweit]

dunno, someone's fb update. i expect it'll be all over the internet by now though. maybe google it?

ok.. google news:

The phone-hacking story took a new and dramatic turn yesterday as a former journalist on the Daily Mirror claimed that the practice was "endemic" at the newspaper during his time there and that he would be willing to ...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mo...-hacking-scandal/story-fn7x8me2-1226100025277
Whistleblower ready to tell inquiry others also hacked phones
A FORMER reporter for the Daily Mirror who says the News of the World was not the only British newspaper involved in phone hacking says he's likely to make himself available to testify to the judicial inquiry into the scandal.
James Hipwell, 45, told The Australian Online he saw show business reporters on the Daily Mirror regularly intercept voicemail messages when he worked there from 1998 to 2000.

Note: I suspect the Herald Sun is a Murdoch paper.

 

[Santino]

If only there were a way to confirm your suspicion.

 

[weltweit]

If only there were a way to confirm your suspicion.

I am sure you can confirm it Santino, if it is important to you!!

 

[butchersapron]

George Osborne had dinner with Rupert Murdoch two weeks before BSkyB bid decision

 

[weltweit]

George Osborne had dinner with Rupert Murdoch two weeks before BSkyB bid decision

But, .... do you think they had any innopropriate conversations?

 

[butchersapron]

I do not. By definition

 

[two sheds]

They just discussed Uganda I believe.