Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[claphamboy]

Note: I suspect the Herald Sun is a Murdoch paper.

If only there were a way to confirm your suspicion.

Wikipedia? It says yes.

Listed under News Limited, News Corp's newspaper division down under.

Newspapers:
Australia published by News Limited.

The Australian (Nationwide)
Community Media Group (16 QLD & NSW suburban/regional titles)
Cumberland-Courier Newspapers (23 suburban/commuter titles)
The Courier-Mail (Queensland)
The Sunday Mail (Queensland)
The Cairns Post (Cairns, Queensland)
The Gold Coast Bulletin (Gold Coast, Queensland)
The Townsville Bulletin (Townsville, Queensland)
The Daily Telegraph (New South Wales)
The Sunday Telegraph (New South Wales)
Herald Sun (Victoria)
Sunday Herald Sun (Victoria)
The Weekly Times (Victoria)
Leader Newspapers (33 suburban Melbourne, VIC titles)
MX (Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane CBD)
The Geelong Advertiser (Geelong, Victoria)
The Advertiser (South Australia)
The Sunday Mail (South Australia)
Messenger Newspapers (11 suburban Adelaide, SA titles)
The Sunday Times (Western Australia)
The Mercury (Tasmania)
Quest Newspapers (19 suburban Brisbane, QLD titles)
The Sunday Tasmanian (Tasmania)
Northern Territory News (Northern Territory)
The Sunday Territorian (Northern Territory)
The Tablelands Advertiser (Atherton Tablelands and the Far North, Queensland)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corporation

 

[ViolentPanda]

They just discussed Uganda I believe.

With Rupert taking the lead in the discussions.

 

[butchersapron]

Judge led inquiry

Phone hacking inquiry judge attended parties at home of Rupert Murdoch's son-in-law

Lord Justice Leveson went to two parties in the past year at the London home of Matthew Freud, a PR executive married to Elisabeth Murdoch, the daughter of Rupert Murdoch widely tipped to be her father’s successor.

Neck deep in shit.

M Freud deleted half his facebook freidnds last week btw

 

[editor]

Coulson has got to be absolutely *fucked*.

Andy Coulson investigated for perjury while working at No 10
Sources say police will examine Coulson's denial of any knowledge of phone hacking at Tommy Sheridan trial


Andy Coulson, the prime minister's former director of communications, is being investigated by police for allegedly committing perjury while working for David Cameron in Downing Street.

The development renews pressure on the prime minister over his judgment in hiring the former News of the World editor and represents the third criminal investigation Coulson faces, adding to allegations that he knew of phone hacking while in charge of the tabloid and authorised bribes to police officers.

Strathclyde detectives confirmed that they had opened a perjury inquiry centred on evidence Coulson gave in court last year that led to a man being jailed.

Coulson was a major witness in a trial involving Tommy Sheridan, the former MSP who was accused of lying in court when winning a libel action against the News of the World. Coulson had been the editor of the Sunday tabloid when it ran a story accusing Sheridan of being an adulterer who visited swingers' clubs.

Sources say police will examine Coulson's denial of any knowledge of phone hacking and payments to police officers at the Sheridan trial against the evidence held by the Scotland Yard investigation.

At the trial Coulson also denied knowing that the paper paid corrupt police officers for tip-offs, which contradicts recent disclosures that News International has uncovered emails showing payments were made to the police during his editorship.

Coulson, who was called as a witness in December 2010, told the court that he had no knowledge of illegal activities by reporters while he was editor of the newspaper.

He also claimed: "I don't accept there was a culture of phone hacking at the News of the World."

Sheridan was jailed for three years in January after being found guilty of perjury during his 2006 defamation action against the NoW. He had successfully sued the newspaper over its claims.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/22/andy-coulson-investigated-perjury-allegations

 

[agricola]

Judge led inquiry

Phone hacking inquiry judge attended parties at home of Rupert Murdoch's son-in-law



Neck deep in shit.

M Freud deleted half his facebook freidnds last week btw

If going to a party at which was hosted by someone related to Murdoch is sufficient to disqualify people from having an oversight role on this, shouldnt the vast majority of MPs (and certainly the vast majority of ministers, shadow ministers and ex-ministers) have recused themselves by now?

 

[DrRingDing]

When will the first MPs call for Dave's resignation?

 

[butchersapron]

Yep, that's the key thing for me here, to expose how they're all interconnected. Others have their own priorities.

 

[rorymac]

Fuckin hell .. I'm gonna take some of these cunts out when I get a serious illness

 

[agricola]

Yep, that's the key thing for me here, to expose how they're all interconnected. Others have their own priorities.

Not the least of whom is Bryant, who - it is perhaps worth recalling given that he is questioning the integrity of a senior member of the judiciary - was one of the more prominent cheerleaders for the Hutton Report, as well as being the auctioneer of that Blair-signed copy which caused a minor furore a while back.

 

[rorymac]

I hope this bloke isn't taking the piss (sorry if it's already been posted)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...nk-that-the-Left-might-actually-be-right.html

 

[two sheds]

If going to a party at which was hosted by someone related to Murdoch is sufficient to disqualify people from having an oversight role on this, shouldnt the vast majority of MPs (and certainly the vast majority of ministers, shadow ministers and ex-ministers) have recused themselves by now?

Yes, let's have people who are demonstrably independent, otherwise there's the risk (or perception) of "time to pay up for mumsie".

 

[elbows]

I hope this bloke isn't taking the piss (sorry if it's already been posted)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...nk-that-the-Left-might-actually-be-right.html

That article is an interesting sign of the times we are in!

 

[goldenecitrone]

I'm away from UK at the moment, but whenever I open the guardian website I just can't stop grinning. It just gets better each day. Shame about the summer recess though.

 

[weltweit]

I'm away from UK at the moment, but whenever I open the guardian website I just can't stop grinning. It just gets better each day. Shame about the summer recess though.

Yes, I think the summer holidays may take some heat out, mind you the story has legs perhaps it will still be stinging when parliament is back.

 

[smokedout]

I'm away from UK at the moment, but whenever I open the guardian website I just can't stop grinning. It just gets better each day. Shame about the summer recess though.

not at all, it's good timing. keeps the pressure on cameron when the press would usually be full of stories about piano playing kittens, without distracting from the real shit that's going on in people's lives, which will be back to kick them in the teeth come september

 

[ferrelhadley]

not at all, it's good timing. keeps the pressure on cameron when the press would usually be full of stories about piano playing kittens, without distracting from the real shit that's going on in people's lives, which will be back to kick them in the teeth come september

Time of the year when the politics desk is struggling for news and the politicos are all of on their holibobs so now the hacks can keep finding new angles in what is a pretty vast story and there is a good chance the relevant minster or his advisor may be sunning themself not in the office so co-ordinating responses is going to be slightly harder than everyone in the same room.

 

[ymu]

Yep, that's the key thing for me here, to expose how they're all interconnected. Others have their own priorities.

Did you see Pilger's article?

Amid the Murdoch scandal, there’s an acrid smell of business as usual

Certainly, there is no "revolution", as reported in the Guardian, which compared the fall of Murdoch with that of the tyrant Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania in 1989. The overexcitement is understandable; Nick Davies's scoop is a great one. Yet the truth is, Britain's system of elite monopoly control of the media rests not on News International alone, but on the Mail and the Guardian and the BBC, perhaps the most influential of all. All share a corporate monoculture that sets the agenda of the "news", defines acceptable politics by maintaining the fiction of distinctive parties, normalises unpopular wars and guards the limits of "free speech". This will be strengthened by the illusion that a "bad apple" has been "rooted out".

 

[belboid]

interesting piece by Ian Katz on Coulsons lack of vetting. Seemingly he was undergoing it belatedly, but it hadn't been completed when he suddenly quit. Because he wasn't going to be cleared, perhaps?

 

[cybertect]

I hope this bloke isn't taking the piss (sorry if it's already been posted)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...nk-that-the-Left-might-actually-be-right.html

Coming from Charles Moore, it's a bit of a surprising eye opener.

 

[starfish]

One question. Did all this shite stop in 2007 when Coulson resigned or did it carry on with the 200 who got sacked recently?

 

[shagnasty]

One question. Did all this shite stop in 2007 when Coulson resigned or did it carry on with the 200 who got sacked recently?

That did occur to me when if ever it did stop

 

[DexterTCN]

Well we can be sure it has stopped for the moment, and the rest of it still to come out.

 

[starfish]

I reckon thats what the new regime, Myler, was brought in for. It stopped then. Hope so, means 200 people can sue for wrongful dismisal.

 

[rhod]

Well we can be sure it has stopped for the moment, and the rest of it still to come out.

In the UK, perhaps.

But in the US it is still quite possible to listen to the voicemail of many people with AT&T or Sprint phones using callerID spoofing services. i.e. you spoof the number of the target phone, so that the voicemail thinks you are the legitimate handset accessing the account.

Apparently this is not possible on T-Moblie or Verizon as they require a PIN to access voicemail (regardless of who is accessing the voicemail, or how).

Wouldn't it be interesting if NewsCorp's US interests were found to have been eavesdropping..

 

[ferrelhadley]

Senior government officials working with Andy Coulson believed that he did have the highest security clearance, it is claimed, raising questions over whether the prime minister's former aide was improperly granted access to the most sensitive information.

Last week it emerged that the former editor of the News of the World had not undergone the most intensive vetting on becoming the prime minister's director of communications and so was working without the highest level of clearance. This should have restricted his access to some documents.

But Labour MP Chris Bryant told the Observer that he had been informed by senior officials that they had believed Coulson was working with the same security clearance as had been held by Alastair Campbell, Tony Blair's press security, who underwent the toughest vetting procedures, which are known as DV (developed vetting).

The development raises the question of whether Coulson, who was given the lesser clearance known as SC (security check), was allowed access that his security status did not warrant.

link

Blimey. Posh boys lax attitude to his mates is dragging him deeper into the mess.

 

[weltweit]

If Coulson, while in Cameron's government, saw materials that were above his security clearance, would that do for Cameron or could he still sneak his way out of it?

 

[stavros]

When will the first MPs call for Dave's resignation?

Dennis Skinner last week;

 

[DrRingDing]

Dodgy Dave

 

[ViolentPanda]

If Coulson, while in Cameron's government, saw materials that were above his security clearance, would that do for Cameron or could he still sneak his way out of it?

He can hand off part of the responsibility for letting Coulson see and hear stuff beyond his clearance to the Cabinet Secretary.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Just got this from Chris Bryant on Twitter:

Surrey police finally admit a detective constable revealed details of the milly Dowler investigation and was demoted for it in 2002.

Am off to ask him for links etc on this one.