Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[butchersapron]

Ask him who it was reveladed to and how was it uncovered? You don't lop off DC's without an investigation. What was that investigation. Who did it?

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Ask him who it was reveladed to and how was it uncovered? You don't lop off DC's without an investigation. What was that investigation. Who did it?

Will do, good sir.

EDIT: Tis done.

 

[butchersapron]

Will do, good sir.

EDIT: Tis done.

Ta.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

butchersapron - Chris Bryant gave me the heads up on this media link: BBC News Am trying to find the Indie on Sunday one he mentioned. Still waiting on the other stuff so far.

 

[cybertect]

The removal of the DC from the Dowler investigation is mentioned in the last three paragraphs of this story in todays Indy, with a quote from Chris Bryant.

The Telegraph cover it as a separate story today: link

 

[MellySingsDoom]

The removal of the DC from the Dowler investigation is mentioned in the last three paragraphs of this story in todays Indy.

The Telegraph cover it as a separate story today: link

Thanks cybertect Chris Bryant hinted that the Indie story was a stand alone thing, which is why I couldn't find it.

 

[butchersapron]

Ta both, there's space here.

 

[butchersapron]

The Dowler family's solicitor Mark Lewis said: "The Dowler family, Bob and Sally, have become aware in the last week of the fact that someone from the Surrey Police was removed from the initial investigation because of the leak of information.

For starters they sat on that for near 10 years...space yet...

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Also this (from the Telegraph piece):

''This related to the inappropriate disclosure of information about aspects of the investigation to a retired police officer friend. A serving colleague was told of the inappropriate disclosure by the person who had heard it, and immediately reported it to their senior management team.

Was the "retired police officer" on speaking terms with a certain media organisation, I wonder/speculate?

e2a: Just asked Chris Bryant this on Twitter.

 

[butchersapron]

...and what she s/he doing before being retired.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

...and what she s/he doing before being retired.

Asked yer man this too (good question, by the way).

 

[shagnasty]

so was the retired officier fishing for info on behalf of the NOTW or was it just a friend who asked out of curiosity

 

[laptop]

"What we have seen over the last few days is police officers standing up, explaining their actions and decisions and being held to account for them. Across the country, in serving our communities, police officers expect to have to do no less.

"It is a stark contrast to the way in which others have sought to meet their responsibilities."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/24/rupert-murdoch-phone-hacking-police

"Others" being ... 7 letters, first letter M, third R, fifth O...

 

[agricola]

For starters they sat on that for near 10 years...space yet...

Bryant is talking shite, though:

ut Labour MP Chris Bryant said: "This raises major questions about the original investigation and about the News of the World's relationship with other police forces. The problem is the Surrey police knew about this in 2002 and did nothing."

Surrey police finally admit a detective constable revealed details of the milly Dowler investigation and was demoted for it in 2002.

Obviously Surrey Police did do something - they gave words of advice (the lowest form of official reprimand), removed the DC from the case permanently, and (if Bryant is to be believed in his tweet) demoted them (ie: back to PC). Nor is it clear what the information was that was leaked - indeed it is at least a possibility that the DC was telling their retired chum that the murder team themselves were being targetted by a lot of the tabloid media, something which was reported on a short while ago, which Surrey Police were aware of at the time.

 

[agricola]

Meanwhile, via PB comes this::

Ring, a ring a story
How appropriate that the most glamourous event in the showbusiness calender should be sponsored by a phone company. Mohan went on to thank "Vodafone's lack of security" for the Mirror's showbusiness exclusives. Whatever does he mean?

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Not heard back from Chris Bryant as yet - will leave it a while longer, and then chase up later if need be.

 

[Streathamite]

Maybe it's just me being cynical here but i would have thought he's too rich and his dad's too influential to mean that he ended up inside? Or by "big trouble" do you simply mean not being on the board of News Int'l?

nope, I mean porridge. Conspiracy to corrupt the course of justice.

 

[two sheds]

nope, I mean porridge. Conspiracy to corrupt the course of justice.

Pervert !!!

 

[butchersapron]

Bryant is talking shite, though:





Obviously Surrey Police did do something - they gave words of advice (the lowest form of official reprimand), removed the DC from the case permanently, and (if Bryant is to be believed in his tweet) demoted them (ie: back to PC). Nor is it clear what the information was that was leaked - indeed it is at least a possibility that the DC was telling their retired chum that the murder team themselves were being targetted by a lot of the tabloid media, something which was reported on a short while ago, which Surrey Police were aware of at the time.

They did do something, you're right. I think the point here is that it's another string to pull. The immediate pucture is not what we should be looking at. Who told Bryant this? Is it the same cource as told the telegrpah and so on?

 

[Streathamite]

In which case all of the shit currently airing will have been known by Cameron for at least a year.

yes - excactly! And that, my monochromatic ursine mate, is hopefully the beauty of it; that not only was he aware, but he ignored substantive warnings on it. which is enough to cause him - at the minimum least - really serious, major shit.

 

[Streathamite]

Ta for that, revlon - forgot how much I liked the king of mancunian miserablism!

 

[agricola]

They did do something, you're right. I think the point here is that it's another string to pull. The immediate pucture is not what we should be looking at. Who told Bryant this? Is it the same cource as told the telegrpah and so on?

Which is the key here. It may be nothing, but one of the lines in the Surrey Police denial has the potential to be interesting (emphasis mine):

A force spokeswoman said today: ''A Surrey Police detective constable was given words of advice and removed from working on the Operation Ruby (investigation into the murder of Milly Dowler) team in 2002 following concern raised by a colleague about the conduct of the officer.

''This related to the inappropriate disclosure of information about aspects of the investigation to a retired police officer friend. A serving colleague was told of the inappropriate disclosure by the person who had heard it, and immediately reported it to their senior management team.

''The following day, the officer, who was working for the major crime team at that time, received words of advice and was removed permanently from the inquiry.''

She said that there was no suggestion of any officer sharing information with the tabloid newspaper The News of the World.

Not "there was no suggestion of any officer sharing information with the press". Again - it may be nothing, but given the timing of this (ie: after the scandal starts to spread to the Mirror), the way the response is phrased, the strange way in which Bryant has found out about it, and the way that Bryant has linked this to the NOTW despite there seeming to be no evidence for him to do that, it is suspicious.

 

[equationgirl]

I think it's a case of the wrong end of the stick, myself.

 

[claphamboy]

Could be interesting:

Channel 4 - 8pm tonight - HOW MURDOCH RAN BRITAIN - Dispatches investigates the world of Rupert Murdoch and the influence and political power he holds in the UK.

 

[cybertect]

The Independent are running "DPP was warned hacking was rife at Murdoch paper" back in 2006, nearly six months before the convictions of Mulcaire and Goodman, as their main story tomorrow

http://twitpic.com/5vs6sf/full

Lord MacDonald, then DPP, went on to work for News International.

 

[shagnasty]

Could be interesting:

Channel 4 - 8pm tonight - HOW MURDOCH RAN BRITAIN - Dispatches investigates the world of Rupert Murdoch and the influence and political power he holds in the UK.

Just watched on 4OD link

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/4od

 

[editor]

That commentator seem to adopt a comedy voice most of the way through.

 

[shagnasty]

I think the narrator was peter obourne

 

[Streathamite]

I know the basic history of the Watergate scandal, but can anyone give me some good books / articles to read about it? There've been a lot of suggestions that this scandal is (or could turn out to be) basically the British version of it, and I wondered whether that could be said to be the case, or if its just hyperbole ...

The book by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein - the two Washington Post journalists who broke the Watergate story - is called All The President's Men, and is just about required reading for anyone who wants to get clued up on Watergate

 

[Bernie Gunther]

<snip> Lord MacDonald, then DPP, went on to work for News International.

I'm sure he was well rewarded for not prosecuting his Master.