Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Streathamite]

I really need to rename this thread considering how things have moved on. Any suggestions for a suitably succinct title?

"News International phone hacking disgusts the entire coun try?" or the NOTW memorial thread?

 

[Schmetterling]

Yes, but the original question has still not been answered... and in any case these legal fees questions are daft anyway, of course a big company accused of malpractice committed by ex-employees whilst they were employees is going to ensure that they have some control over that persons legal position.

I think it is more about establishing what the 'knew' and what they did not 'know'; i.e. them claiming that they had no knowledge of this yet have knowledge of that.

 

[butchersapron]

Here comes the wall

 

[krink]

ruperts missus did a sharon stone there!

 

[frogwoman]

I think James is coming across as very nice, polite young man, and ol' Rupes is a lovable bumbly Grandpa.

you think so?

 

[miniGMgoit]

I saw that too but didn't want to lower the tone

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, but the original question has still not been answered... and in any case these legal fees questions are daft anyway, of course a big company accused of malpractice committed by ex-employees whilst they were employees is going to ensure that they have some control over that persons legal position.

Is their path worthwhile or not?

 

[gavman]

I think James is coming across as very nice, polite young man, and ol' Rupes is a lovable bumbly Grandpa.

i've got a timeshare that's right up your street

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, but the original question has still not been answered... and in any case these legal fees questions are daft anyway, of course a big company accused of malpractice committed by ex-employees whilst they were employees is going to ensure that they have some control over that persons legal position.

some control over that persons legal position.

Or...

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

"if I/you knew now what I/you knew then" - phrase of the day, or at least top 3 with "i have no understanding of" and "i blame yates"

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Robert Peston's Twitter feed (c/o Beeb):

1613: BBC's Robert Peston: Rupert Murdoch does not deny that Les HInton will receive many millions of dollars in compensation following resignation

Wonder how much compensation NI are hoping to offer each of the victims of the phone whatnots? More than Hinton, or substantially less?

 

[agricola]

Is their path worthwhile or not?

Do you mean "is that line of questioning" worthwhile? If so, no - they would be better to focus on why Goodman and Mulcaire were paid off, and what relationship that payoff had to the payoffs recieved (if any) by other employees who had been found guilty of criminal offences and imprisoned.

edit: and here we go

 

[TruXta]

Opinions on MPs performances so far? Weak/strong, relevant/irrelevant?

 

[pk]

Robert Peston's Twitter feed (c/o Beeb):



Wonder how much compensation NI are hoping to offer the victims of the phone whatnots? More than Hinton, or substantially less?

Fuck their "hopes". A million quid each. Four billion. Lovely. And that's just the UK...

 

[butchersapron]

You did know then, that's why you set up layers so you could claim that you didn't. And it's all burning.

 

[agricola]

Opinions on MPs performances so far? Weak/strong, relevant/irrelevant?

Much better than the Vaz committee.

 

[claphamboy]

I think James is coming across as very nice, polite young man, and ol' Rupes is a lovable bumbly Grandpa.

Take off the rose-tinted specs.

 

[butchersapron]

Do you mean "is that line of questioning" worthwhile? If so, no - they would be better to focus on why Goodman and Mulcaire were paid off, and what relationship that payoff had to the payoffs recieved (if any) by other employees who had been found guilty of criminal offences and imprisoned.

As far as i can see they were prep questions for what you finger as important. (if you're interested my own post reflect that, i thought it was something esle). It was an MPs set up.

 

[miniGMgoit]

Squirm Bitch!

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Disco Inc spin dept off their marks? (c/o Beeb):

1619: Tory Press HQ tweets: Alistair Campbell Diaries: 'TB left for a memorial service and came back for lunch with Murdoch. We got him through the back door...'

(Having said that, boy, I bet the Digger must've been highly familiar with that entrance/exit. Did the Grey Galactian (Major) and Die Eisenfrau do likewise?)

 

[agricola]

It was an MPs set up.

That seems clear now, at least judging by James Murdochs increased level of evasion.

 

[claphamboy]

i've got a timeshare that's right up your street

Opinions on MPs performances so far? Weak/strong, relevant/irrelevant?

Not great, but nowhere as bad as I expected TBH.

Brooks will be on soon, everyone sitting comfortably?

 

[Badgers]

Brooks gonna be seen?

 

[butchersapron]

Why not?

 

[DJ Squelch]

text of the Murdoch's prepared statement to the committee

http://www.journalism.co.uk/news/rupert-murdoch-s-full-statement-to-select-committee/s2/a545237/

News Corporation has issued a statement prepared by chairman Rupert Murdoch in advance of his appearance before the culture, media and sport select committee this afternoon.

Here is the statement in full:

Mr. Chairman. Select Committee Members: With your permission, I would like to read a short statement.

My son and I have come here with great respect for all of you, for Parliament and for the people of Britain whom you represent.

This is the most humble day of my career.

After all that has happened, I know we need to be here today.

Before going further, James and I would like to say how sorry we are for what has happened – especially with regard to listening to the voicemail of victims of crime.

My company has 52,000 employees. I have led it for 57 years and I have made my share of mistakes. I have lived in many countries, employed thousands of honest and hardworking journalists, owned nearly 200 newspapers and followed countless stories about people and families around the world.

At no time do I remember being as sickened as when I heard what the Dowler family had to endure – nor do I recall being as angry as when I was told that the News of the World could have compounded their distress. I want to thank the Dowlers for graciously giving me the opportunity to apologise in person.

I would like all the victims of phone hacking to know how completely and deeply sorry I am. Apologizing cannot take back what has happened. Still, I want them to know the depth of my regret for the horrible invasions into their lives.

I fully understand their ire. And I intend to work tirelessly to merit their forgiveness.
I understand our responsibility to cooperate with today’s session as well as with future inquiries. We will respond to your questions to the best of our ability and follow up if we are not capable of answering anything today. Please remember that some facts and information are still being uncovered.

We now know that things went badly wrong at the News of the World. For a newspaper that held others to account, it failed when it came to itself. The behavior that occurred went against everything that I stand for. It not only betrayed our readers and me, but also the many thousands of magnificent professionals in our other divisions around the world.
So, let me be clear in saying: invading people’s privacy by listening to their voicemail is wrong. Paying police officers for information is wrong. They are inconsistent with our codes of conduct and neither has any place, in any part of the company I run.

But saying sorry is not enough. Things must be put right. No excuses. This is why News International is cooperating fully with the police whose job it is to see that justice is done. It is our duty not to prejudice the outcome of the legal process. I am sure the committee will understand this.

I wish we had managed to see and fully solve these problems earlier. When two men were sent to prison in 2007, I thought this matter had been settled. The police ended their investigations and I was told that News International conducted an internal review. I am confident that when James later rejoined News Corporation he thought the case was closed too. These are subjects you will no doubt wish to explore today.

This country has given me, our companies and our employees many opportunities. I am grateful for them. I hope our contribution to Britain will one day also be recognised.

Above all, I hope that, through the process that is beginning with your questions today, we will come to understand the wrongs of the past, prevent them from happening again and, in the years ahead, restore the nation’s trust in our company and in all British journalism.
I am committed to doing everything in my power to make this happen. Thank you. We are happy to answer your questions.

 

[DotCommunist]

Not great, but nowhere as bad as I expected TBH.

Brooks will be on soon, everyone sitting comfortably?

brooks should be a good spectacle. Fiver says she loses it.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

brooks should be a good spectacle. Fiver says she loses it.

Throw in a question about hubby's "binned" computer as a warm-up?

 

[Dan U]

Number 10 have released the email exchange between Yates and Llwelyn

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/19/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch-rebekah-brooks-mps

10 September 2010: John Yates to Ed Llewellyn:

Ed,

Hope all well.

I am coming over to see the PM at 12.30 today regarding [redacted: national security] matters. I am very happy to have a conversation in the margins around the other matters that have caught my attention this week if you thought it would be useful.

Best wishes,

John

Response: 10 September 2010: Ed Llewellyn to John Yates:

John -

Thanks - all well.

On the other matters that have caught your attention this week, assuming we are thinking of the same thing, I am sure you will understand that we will want to be able to be entirely clear, for your sake and ours, that we have not been in contact with you about this subject.

So I don't think it would really be appropriate for the PM, or anyone else at No 10, to discuss this issue with you, and would be grateful if it were not raised please.

But the PM looks forward to seeing you, with Peter Ricketts and Jonathan Evans, purely on [redacted: national security] matters at 1230.

With best wishes,

Ed

 

[claphamboy]

brooks should be a good spectacle. Fiver says she loses it.

I hope so, but I was expecting at least one of the Murdochs to do so.

Throw in a question about hubby's "binned" computer as a warm-up?

That would be great.

 

[butchersapron]

I don't know what brooks is like, i do know that last time she was here coulsen took the lead. Quite forcefully.