Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Barking_Mad]

The met Director of Public Affairs Dick Fedioricio has also been referred to the IPCC.....

How on earth can anyone trust the police to investigate themselves in an issue that is by definition, incriminating them?

 

[DrRingDing]

Fnar.

 

[sheothebudworths]

I think the main danger for the Murdochs today would be to be confronted by fresh allegations for which they don't have a defence. If they deny knowledge of something that then turns out to be real, their whole narrative of cleaning house after a period of 'poor decisions' would come apart.

*rubs hands*


(What time's kick off, btw? )

 

[Barking_Mad]

Gaurdian

A Labour MP has written to Sir Gus O'Donnell asking for an investigation into the allegation that David Cameron broke the ministerial code, the Daily Telegraph reports. John Mann has suggested that, in having dinner with James Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks on 23 December last year (when the government was still considering News Corporation's bid for BSkyB), Cameron broke the section of the code saying that "ministers must ensure that no conflict arises, or appears to arise, between their public duties and their private interests".

Number 10 has an independent adviser on ministerial interests who can investigate complaints of this kind. But, as the Telegraph points it, it is the prime minister himself who decides if a complaint merits investigation. Cameron will have to rule on himself. I think we can predict what he will say.

 

[krink]

does anyone know what time the select committee hearing starts this afternoon as i want to watch on the bbc democracy site. thanks.

 

[editor]

Starts at 2pm BBC2:
Andrew Neil presents live coverage of Rupert Murdoch, his son James, and Rebekah Brooks giving evidence to the Culture, Media and Sport Committee on phone hacking.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012zw12

 

[Idris2002]

Andrew Neil? Andrew fucking Neil?

 

[Badgers]

*rubs hands*

(What time's kick off, btw? )

Thing get underway with Stephenson up at 12:00 but the 'headline acts' are Murdochs at 14:30 and Brooks at 15:30

 

[invisibleplanet]

Starts at 12noon -- all the mix in one go without any selective editing:

12pm HoC Home Affairs Committee - Grimond Room
Unauthorised tapping into or hacking of mobile communications
Witnesses
Sir Paul Stephenson, Commissioner, Metropolitan Police
Dick Fedorcio OBE, Director of Public Affairs and Internal Communication, Metropolitan Police
Assistant Commissioner John Yates, Specialist Operations, Metropolitan Police
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=8917

2.30pm - HoC Culture, Media and Sport Committee - Wilson Room
Phone-hacking
Witnesses
Rupert Murdoch, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, News Corporation, and James Murdoch, Deputy Chief Operating Officer and Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, International News Corporation
Rebekah Brooks, former Chief Executive Officer, News International Ltd
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=8910


Today is also the Final Evidence Session on PUBLIC HEALTH (Live @10:45 http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=8909)
http://www.parliament.uk/business/c...lth-committee/news/11-07-15-publichealth-ev5/

 

[DrRingDing]

Andrew Neil? Andrew fucking Neil?

Innit.

Even if new evidence comes out they will just avoid the topic and give a stock response.

I'd be amazed if they were tripped up.

 

[Idris2002]

They passed into appalling vista territory some days ago. . . and they won't have any incentive to ask the really hard questions, or to make a genuine effort at cleaning house.

Which is ironic, because those would be the only things that could save them from suffering real, genuine, and permanent damage to the legitimacy of their roles and their institutions.

 

[Barking_Mad]

"Next Cabinet Member to Leave" David Cameron has gone from 20/1 to 6/1 on Ladbrokes since the weekend.

 

[Barking_Mad]

lol, from CiF

So Moriarty, we have a dead person

...Yes.

How did he die?

...there is no explanation for the death.

Oh. Isn't that suspicious?

...no, unexplained death is not suspicious. Death is only suspicious if we find an explanation and that explanation is suspicious.

Oh. But if there is no explanation for a death, shouldn't that in itself be considered 'suspicious' until evidence to the conrtray is found?

...ummmm . . . . but there is no explanation for the death, so how can it be suspicious? We have to find a suspicious explanation for it to be suspicious. So therefore a death cannot be suspicious if there is no explanation.

But . . . but . . . but surely . . . you're not listening are you?

...no.

Okay, forget it.

...ok. Thank you.

 

[krink]

I think 5live are also broadcasting the whole thing from midday.

 

[rhod]

Andrew Neil? Andrew fucking Neil?

(In happier times..)

 

[Barking_Mad]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blo...och-rebekah-brooks-mps?commentpage=2#block-24

Is there any similarity between the phone hacking affair and the death of Diana? In a provocative article for Spiked Online, Brendan O'Neill says: "This is now something akin to a 'Diana moment', except we are implored to shelve our critical faculties in the name of collectively hating a mogul rather than collectively loving a princess."

O'Neill argues the commentators who are celebrating the phone hacking affair because it will weaken the power of the Murdoch empire are missing the point.

"Which brings us to the present day and the harebrained idea that loosening Murdoch's alleged grip will liberate and re-populate with principle the British political sphere. Whatever you think of Murdoch - I am not a fan, and I believe that the phone-hacking antics at the News of the World were deplorable and indefensible - this is clearly nonsense. Because it was the already existing disarray of the British political sphere that empowered Murdoch in the first place. The respectable commentariat has effectively declared war on a man who was merely the beneficiary of historic political fallout, not the orchestrator of it. Remove him from the picture and those various profound problems - the emptying out of both left and right ideologies, the aloofness of the political class, the transformation of politics into a purely elite pastime - will still exist. Our politicians will still have nothing of substance to say, just fewer tabloids in which not to say it."

 

[butchersapron]

Because it was the already existing disarray of the British political sphere that empowered Murdoch in the first place.

Spot on, these hypocrites who try to pretend that he's sullied our pure political sphere are as big ratfuckers as he is.

 

[Idris2002]

(In happier times..)

'It was the eighties'.

 

[invisibleplanet]

They're a tad late starting in the Grimond Room
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=8917

e2a: they're all seated now.

Also, another committee meeting has been added at 5:30pm http://www.parliament.uk/business/c...-affairs-committee/news/110718-phone-hacking/ with the solicitor for the Dowler family present.

 

[Schmetterling]

Started

 

[laptop]

Also, another committee meeting added at 5:30pm http://www.parliament.uk/business/c...-affairs-committee/news/110718-phone-hacking/

Page cannot be found

 

[invisibleplanet]

Page cannot be found

Original link fixed. Here it is again for those viewing 40 posts per page
http://www.parliament.uk/business/c...-affairs-committee/news/110718-phone-hacking/

 

[treelover]

'It must have scared the rest of Fleet Street when he started talking – he had bought, sold and snorted cocaine with some of the most powerful names in tabloid journalism. One retains a senior position on the Daily Mirror. "I last saw him in Little Havana," he recalled, "at three in the morning, on his hands and knees. He had lost his cocaine wrap. I said to him, 'This is not really the behaviour we expect of a senior journalist from a great Labour paper.' He said, 'Have you got any fucking drugs?'" And the voicemail hacking was all part of the great game. The idea that it was a secret, or the work of some "rogue reporter", had him rocking in his chair: "Everyone was doing it. Everybody got a bit carried away with this power that they had. No one came close to catching us." He would hack messages and delete them so the competition could not hear them, or hack messages and swap them with mates on other papers.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/sean-hoare-news-of-the-world


Read this to get a sense of how powerful Fleet St felt in the 80's to now, that they were untouchable, now they get whats coming to them...

and this is just about the entertainment side, the politics will be much more destructive..

 

[two sheds]

Why would Mr. Brooks try to retrieve the bag if it was planted?

Think I read that he claimed it was his bag and puter that someone was supposed to be returning to him but left in the wrong part of the car park.

 

[invisibleplanet]

I find that difficult to believe.

 

[DrRingDing]

Why would Mr. Brooks try to retrieve the bag if it was planted?

Because he's a chinless, upper class coward who lost his nerve whilst disposing of evidence.

 

[smokedout]

"at three in the morning, on his hands and knees. He had lost his cocaine wrap. I said to him, 'This is not really the behaviour we expect of a senior journalist from a great Labour paper.' He said, 'Have you got any fucking drugs?'"

I like him

 

[Barking_Mad]

ive got no sound but he looks quite defensive - arms crossed, waving of the hand in an attempted dismissive manner....

1500/1 on his head exploding over Keith Vaz

 

[teqniq]

I find that difficult to believe.

Nigh on impossible imo. Who leaves laptops in car parks for someone to pick up? Apart from someone in a spy novel or something....

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Stephenson says no reason to suspect Wallis on any connection with hacking, yet Wallis was senior executive at NoTW in May 2009, leaving shortly later, the Guardian published further phone-hacking allegations in July 2009 and Wallis started working as PR consultant for Met in October 2009 - what kind of references were taken up and what level of intellectual paucity is there in recruitment at the Metropolitan Police if no-one made those obvious connections and possible problems arising from them.

Unless, of course, Stephenson's recall of events is somewhat less than the truth perhaps?