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Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

butchersapron said:
Ofcom,a body set up to monitor stuff who don't monitor stuff. They only judge who they can monitor. As i said, it's very funny this. More please london_calliing.
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Here you go then:
To my knowledge, the "fit and proper" provision has never yet been interpreted on the basis of whether or not someone in charge of a company which owns a broadcaster has or may have committed a criminal offence.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/jul/06/news-corporation-mediabusiness


So, ownership and fit and proper has never been tested in this sense. Prospective ownership and fit and proper....
 
peterkro said:
Has anybody got any info on how a black mark against NewsCorp by Ofcom would play out in China,someone mentioned it would keep them out of the Chinese market for ten years but I can't find any info with google.Murdoch has already dropped the BBC news channel from Star TV to appease the Chinese government and I suspect the real damage to them would be done by the Chinese authorities if they become upset by their behaviour in Western countries.
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No idea. China has a very hands off policy on the internal politics of its client states. I doubt it extends to business interests though. They're more likely to confiscate his assets and run it themselves, I think. IIRC they did that to BP, but I may be misremembering.
 
butchersapron said:
Which shows what though? I'm not being obtuse or argumentative but i find the claim that 'real people' aren't interested in this absolutley amazing as it's simply not not my experience.
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i think they were, the millie dowler thing and the screws being pulled for sure, but its just a bit of a saga now, not sure most people trust or even give a fuck about official enquiries and whats said in the house - doesnt mean its not significant because its part of a much larger disillusionment, but its just another story in the papers now

not explaining myself very well, its just got a bit, well boring i suppose - its not going to impact on peoples day to day lives at all and theres a lot of things happening in the background that will
 
Can we just put the time-wasters on mass ignore.

The Murdochs are obeying the summonses they received today. More interesting shit to talk about than indulging pantomimers.
 
Can we keep this thread on topic please rather than have people fill it up with groundless speculation about the amount of alcohol contributors may or may not have imbibed? Ta.
 
So, next Tuesday for the next big thing in this story. The main protaganists, though I just saw an MP member of the committee on TV and she did not seem a very incisive type.

Contacting hacking victims at a rate of 30 a week, the police enquiry has months or years to run. 30 a week, seems painfully slow to me.

The FBI may, or may not have an investigation underway into the possibility that News International sought to hack 9/11 victims phones. They will neither confirm or deny the existance of the enquiry.
 
smokedout said:
not explaining myself very well, its just got a bit, well boring i suppose - its not going to impact on peoples day to day lives at all and theres a lot of things happening in the background that will
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Yep ---- someone else , (VP ?) made the same point earlier ---- still agree.
 
editor said:
Can we keep this thread on topic please rather than have people fill it up with groundless speculation about the amount of alcohol contributors may or may not have imbibed? Ta.
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I'm not exactly known for lining up behind Editor, but yes, please... This thread is fucking *ace* when it's not degenerating.

Keep the focus people :cool:
 
weltweit said:
So, next Tuesday for the next big thing in this story.
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Barring early leaks from the FBI investigation, if it's on - the FBI told the BBC it was "credible"...

Or other unexpected news... Prince Charles wading in...

weltweit said:
The main protaganists, though I just saw an MP member of the committee on TV and she did not seem a very incisive type.
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It only takes two incisive questioners on the Select Committee, and I think I see more than three here:

  • Mr John Whittingdale MP (Chair)
  • Ms Louise Bagshawe MP
  • Dr Thérèse Coffey MP
  • Damian Collins MP
  • Philip Davies MP
  • Paul Farrelly MP
  • Alan Keen MP
  • Mr Adrian Sanders MP
  • Jim Sheridan MP
  • Mr Tom Watson MP (Con)

weltweit said:
Contacting hacking victims at a rate of 30 a week, the police enquiry has months or years to run. 30 a week, seems painfully slow to me.
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Each spends most of a day with three or so detectives, according to the one I've spoken to. So 30 a week is tying up 15-20 plod...
 
Rupert Murdoch, James Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks wrote letters to the select committee, which then seemingly moments later were read out live on BBC News.

Does that seem right? Strange though it may seem I think they might have expected their letters to have had some privacy :) funny ..
 
weltweit said:
Rupert Murdoch, James Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks wrote letters to the select committee, which then seemingly moments later were read out live on BBC News.

Does that seem right? Strange though it may seem I think they might have expected their letters to have had some privacy :) funny ..
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Odds on they released the letters to the Press Association. Saves dealing with requests... fits with the protestations of openness about crimes, so long as they're other people's...
 
peterkro said:
Has anybody got any info on how a black mark against NewsCorp by Ofcom would play out in China,someone mentioned it would keep them out of the Chinese market for ten years but I can't find any info with google.Murdoch has already dropped the BBC news channel from Star TV to appease the Chinese government and I suspect the real damage to them would be done by the Chinese authorities if they become upset by their behaviour in Western countries.
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I wouldn't put it past digger to have been passing on politically sensitive information (gained through hacking politicians) to the Chinese government, just to gain favourable contract awards in the new land of plenty... Now that'd be really juicy.:hmm:
 
laptop said:
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It only takes two incisive questioners on the Select Committee, and I think I see more than three here:

  • Mr John Whittingdale MP (Chair)
  • Ms Louise Bagshawe MP
  • Dr Thérèse Coffey MP
  • Damian Collins MP
  • Philip Davies MP
  • Paul Farrelly MP
  • Alan Keen MP
  • Mr Adrian Sanders MP
  • Jim Sheridan MP
  • Mr Tom Watson MP (Con)
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Sorry to admit, but I've never heard of any of them.

laptop said:
Each spends most of a day with three or so detectives, according to the one I've spoken to. So 30 a week is tying up 15-20 plod...
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Just seems like a slow and laborious process.
It is going to take a long long time.
 
laptop said:
Odds on they released the letters to the Press Association. Saves dealing with requests... fits with the protestations of openness about crimes, so long as they're other people's...
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The originaol CCs were in the letters on the guardian sites. They were for public consumption.
 
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