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Milk's impact on the planet dairy, soya, rice, oat and almond compared

I've offered an alternative to 'cruel' milk. How is that NOT on-topic??????????????????????????????????????
So you're still proposing having extremely expensive milk sent my courier around the nation as a sustainable and practical alternative, yes?

And what is this 'coloured water' you're on about? Why do you feel the need to make up nonsense like that, along with all this chip-on-your-shoulder 'smug' insults?
 
I can buy a litre of unpasteurized milk from a local farm from happy healthy well treated, grass fed, organic, no pesticides or antibiotics used ... sold in a glass recyclable bottle for €2.

I'll opt for it over anything that has to be imported....because the product that is flown in from Sweden or California or shipped over from the UK ...has a massive carbon footprint
 
So you're still proposing having extremely expensive milk sent my courier around the nation as a sustainable and practical alternative, yes?

And what is this 'coloured water' you're on about? Why do you feel the need to make up nonsense like that, along with all this chip-on-your-shoulder 'smug' insults?
No, I'm suggesting you get on a bike and ride to your nearest dairy farm ,where you will likely find milk. But I get the impression that won't be happening any time soon. But if you were THAT bothered...
And 'coloured water' is anything that pretends to be milk but isn't.
And where do you think your almond ''milk' comes from? Cheadle Hulme?
 
I can buy a litre of unpasteurized milk from a local farm from happy healthy well treated, grass fed, organic, no pesticides or antibiotics used ... sold in a glass recyclable bottle for €2.

I'll opt for it over anything that has to be imported....because the product that is flown in from Sweden or California or shipped over from the UK ...has a massive carbon footprint
Tastes soooo much better as well. I'd only be buying that milk if I could.
 
As opposed to transporting 'milk alternatives' thousands of miles.
But in BULK, not by individual courier for each litre :facepalm:

But seeing as you trying to claim the high moral ground here, what's the name of the super ethical farm you're buying your milk from?
 
I can buy a litre of unpasteurized milk from a local farm from happy healthy well treated, grass fed, organic, no pesticides or antibiotics used ... sold in a glass recyclable bottle for €2.
What is the name of this lovely farm?
 
Tastes soooo much better as well. I'd only be buying that milk if I could.

I live in a city 4 days a week. And I get the milk here in a local shop. It comes from farm 5 km away and is delivered daily to the shop.
It is really lovely... although I don't get it all the time because of th3 price. But it's nice to have...especially if you want a really cold glass of milk to drink.
 
What is the name of this lovely farm?

I used to get it from Adare farm. They stopped recently due to rising costs.
Now I get it from Cloughjordan farm...a bit further away but they deliver to the local Milk Market and thats open every Wednesday and Saturday with loads of farm produce etc...baked goods, goose eggs and hens eggs, cheeses and all sorts of jams and a great vegetarian / vegan restaurant. It's a fantastic market.

Eta. There's another farm...close by doing it too. Condons farm.
 
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But seeing as you trying to claim the high moral ground here, what's the name of the super ethical farm you're buying your milk from?
I'm not trying to claim the moral high ground. That's solely reserved for the likes of you. I'm merely stating that both my meat and dairy come from an ethical farm (I never mentioned ''super ethical", that's simply more of your hyperbole :thumbs:)
What you and your ilk don't seem to understand, is that the majority of farms in Ireland are 'ethical'. We aren't the same monsters that you allude to in the UK :thumbs:
 
I'm not trying to claim the moral high ground. That's solely reserved for the likes of you. I'm merely stating that both my meat and dairy come from an ethical farm (I never mentioned ''super ethical", that's simply more of your hyperbole :thumbs:)
What you and your ilk don't seem to understand, is that the majority of farms in Ireland are 'ethical'. We aren't the same monsters that you allude to in the UK :thumbs:
"You and your ilk". You really need to get that fucking massive chip off your shoulder.
 
"You and your ilk". You really need to get that fucking massive chip off your shoulder.
Not really. You're being all preachy about what people should eat and drink. It seems to me that there are a few people here with a chip on their shoulder, but none of them are meat eaters.
 
SG: "I will give up my milk when they prise it from my cold dead hands"
Vegetarians, vegans and reasonable meat-eaters: "do what you like, mate, just pointing out it would be better for the planet if more people stopped drinking it"
SG has a stroke cos he's not getting the reaction he wants. And because he has heart disease.
 
There are a couple or three raging finger pointers here. Fortunately, I'm not one of them.

editor: Do you honestly believe your (negative) impact on the planet is lower than mine? I can prove, beyond doubt that it isn't. So if you want to get into this debate, let's go!
You can prove it? :D

Editor already starts from a good place because he lives in a block of flats in a big city. v environmentally friendly way to live, that.
 
You are a very angry and deluded man. I really cannot fathom why other people's diets enrage you so. no one's coming to take your bottle away, so quit squealing.
 
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