editor
hiraethified
You said human "cruelty". Please produce evidence of this. Thank you.
Milk's impact on the planet dairy, soya, rice, oat and almond compared
- Thread starter editor
- Start date
editor
hiraethified
It's obvious I got it wrong but the refusal to offer an explanation when asked resulted in all this unnecessary shit. But yes, let's move on.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Please apologise to TruXta for making a deliberate attempt to smear them because you were called out for being a hypocrite.
editor
hiraethified
What? Answer the question directed at you please and stop trying to divert the discussion. Or if you have no evidence of 'cruelty' in the almond trade, admit you made it up.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
If I didn't know better, I'd swear you start these threads for no other reason than to cause an argument.
editor
hiraethified
Why don't you answer the question? You claimed that was human 'cruelty' in the almond milk trade. Can you produce some evidence of this please?
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
There's cruelty in every trade that involves underpaid workers being exploited in order to make someone very rich. I can't help you if you don't know the definition of cruelty.
editor
hiraethified
So you have no actual evidence of human cruelty in the almond milk industry? Great. Now we can move on.
However, there's plenty of hard evidence of animal cruelty in the dairy industry. Awful, terrible, unnatural cruelty.
editor
hiraethified
How is pointing out the cruelty in the dairy industry trying to persuade someone? But yes, lets keep it personal rather than argue the issues.Of course the real wtf in all of Ed's posts on this thread is back on page 2, where he says he's not trying to persuade anyone.
And this is coming from someone who agrees with the point that the OP was making
hammerntongues
Well-Known Member
exploitation is bad
environmental damage is bad
most " substitutes " taste shit or are bad
some posters disagree
fucks sake
environmental damage is bad
most " substitutes " taste shit or are bad
some posters disagree
fucks sake
TruXta
tired
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
But it seems you don't want to discuss anything. It's quite apparent from your replies on this thread that all you seem to want to do is sit on your throne of superiority with your fingers in your ears.
#vegangelist
TruXta
tired
Not sure about human cruelty, but it's old news that the almond industry is a huge factor in destroying Californian ecosystems. California being the producer of 80% of all almonds consumed worldwide.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
And here we're back to the systems problem. Wholesale abandoning of other crops in favour of massive almond farms because that's where the biggest short- to medium-term profit is. Long-term such drought unresistant crops may fail, but who cares about the long term? Capital doesn't.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
in the long term we're all dead
--keynes
--keynes
TruXta
tired
It's worse than that, as the big $$$ producers are openly admitting that they see drought as a political problem rather than an ecological one.
Baronage-Phase
Well-Known Member
I can live without all of those things.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
You say, on the Internet.
Baronage-Phase
Well-Known Member
TruXta
tired
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Baronage-Phase
Well-Known Member
Think of the fucking trees!
It was only a one page letter... on recycled paper written on in my own blood...
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
It was only a one page letter... on recycled paper written on in my own blood...
If we all started writing letters....hmm? hmm?
Baronage-Phase
Well-Known Member
We'd bleed to death I guess.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
there are eight or nine pints of blood in you
how long are you thinking of making this letter?
editor
hiraethified
And capital certainly doesn't give much of a fuck about animal welfare, natural practices or cruelty. But then neither do a lot of people.
