Marx on immigration ..
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ViolentPanda
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durruti02 said:nino .. what do you make of this?
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=370
"You're far too obsessed with this subject to have anything other than sinister motives"
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...31&postcount=3
"Behind these threads lies the ugly face of racism."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=529
"Dorito is always using language like "looking after one's own". The BNP and the NF also use that phrase"[/b]
( this is particularly silly as the point of this was too see the differrences between a racist backward reactionary 'our own' and a modern multiracial progressive 'our own' .. but as usual nino giot obsessed on the words )
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=588
"Do you actually know any Black people, durutti? I don't think that you do"
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=602
"I've heard the "some of my best friends are black" line before btw. You must think that I came down in the last shower. It's one of the worst cliches anyone could use in response to the question that I put to you."
"You're a liar, durutti. If you think that I'm going to believe you and change my mind on the basis of that cliched statement, you're a bigger fool that I first thought."
"No, arsehole, it is not my problem, it is yours. You are the one who relies on shitty cliches like "some of my best friends are black". It didn't impress in the 70's and it sounds even more ridiculous today. I have nothing to apologise for, go fuck yourself."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=104
"You support immigration controls and immigration controls are racist."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=166
"You're not fooling anyone. You're a nasty wee xenophobe who doesn't like his ideas on immigration exposed for what they are". http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=175
"durutti has started over 16 threads on the subject of immigration in the last year or so. Perhaps you don't see that as obsessive but even a novice psychologist would recognise it as symptomatic of an obsessive disorder."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=218
"You're not doing too well here, durutti. Your posts betray you as a right winger (You're no fucking Marxist, that's for sure)".
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=250
" ..you pin the blame on "immigration" and by extension, the immigrants themselves .."http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=379
"You're a nasty, embittered man who hasn't the guts or the honesty to admit that he isn't what he says he is."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=204
"...your deeply held notion that Britain is being "swamped" by immigrants .."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=355
"To you, they are all the same and they are here taking our housing, our shitty low-paid jobs and fucking our women."
and when knotted qouted all this .. you ignored it
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=326
p.s fancy a drink with me and say knotted to clear all this up?
Well, he hasn't called you a racist. To call you a racist he'd have to actually say "you're a racist".
Not his fault if you read his words and believe he's implying you're a racist, is it?
ViolentPanda said:Well, he hasn't called you a racist. To call you a racist he'd have to actually say "you're a racist".
Not his fault if you read his words and believe he's implying you're a racist, is it?
This is about as pedantic as anything I've ever seen you post, VP, and that's saying something.
nino_savatte
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durruti02 said:nino .. what do you make of this?
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=370
"You're far too obsessed with this subject to have anything other than sinister motives"
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...31&postcount=3
"Behind these threads lies the ugly face of racism."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=529
"Dorito is always using language like "looking after one's own". The BNP and the NF also use that phrase"[/b]
( this is particularly silly as the point of this was too see the differrences between a racist backward reactionary 'our own' and a modern multiracial progressive 'our own' .. but as usual nino giot obsessed on the words )
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=588
"Do you actually know any Black people, durutti? I don't think that you do"
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=602
"I've heard the "some of my best friends are black" line before btw. You must think that I came down in the last shower. It's one of the worst cliches anyone could use in response to the question that I put to you."
"You're a liar, durutti. If you think that I'm going to believe you and change my mind on the basis of that cliched statement, you're a bigger fool that I first thought."
"No, arsehole, it is not my problem, it is yours. You are the one who relies on shitty cliches like "some of my best friends are black". It didn't impress in the 70's and it sounds even more ridiculous today. I have nothing to apologise for, go fuck yourself."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=104
"You support immigration controls and immigration controls are racist."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=166
"You're not fooling anyone. You're a nasty wee xenophobe who doesn't like his ideas on immigration exposed for what they are". http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=175
"durutti has started over 16 threads on the subject of immigration in the last year or so. Perhaps you don't see that as obsessive but even a novice psychologist would recognise it as symptomatic of an obsessive disorder."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=218
"You're not doing too well here, durutti. Your posts betray you as a right winger (You're no fucking Marxist, that's for sure)".
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=250
" ..you pin the blame on "immigration" and by extension, the immigrants themselves .."http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=379
"You're a nasty, embittered man who hasn't the guts or the honesty to admit that he isn't what he says he is."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=204
"...your deeply held notion that Britain is being "swamped" by immigrants .."
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=355
"To you, they are all the same and they are here taking our housing, our shitty low-paid jobs and fucking our women."
and when knotted qouted all this .. you ignored it
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...&postcount=326
p.s fancy a drink with me and say knotted to clear all this up?
So where, in any of those posts, have I called you a racist?
You're a fucking nutter.
nino_savatte
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durruti02 said:nino .. what do you make of this?
p.s fancy a drink with me and say knotted to clear all this up?
You make it all up and no, I don't fancy having a drink with either you or Knotted, because I don't go drinking with people who wish me harm (i.e are working to get me banned) or those who want to the control discourse by issuing threats or smearing their opponent.
I have never once called you a racist. If you persist with this lie, then it would seem that I am the one who has the most reasonable grounds to report you. Think on that, sunshine.
nino_savatte
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ViolentPanda said:Well, he hasn't called you a racist. To call you a racist he'd have to actually say "you're a racist".
Not his fault if you read his words and believe he's implying you're a racist, is it?
I never even implied that he was a racist but his obsessions are getting a wee bit out of control.
butchersapron
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Why lie like that? The evidence is clearly above - things like "To you, they are all the same and they are here taking our housing, our shitty low-paid jobs and fucking our women." are clearly calling him racist, never mind starting on merely implying it. I don't really care about this spat anymore but blatant lying like that pisses me off.
nino_savatte
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It's not the same thing, torres or are you the only one who is allowed to use irony on this forum?
Oh and I'm not lying.
Fuckwit.
Oh and I'm not lying.
Fuckwit.
Crispy
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It certainly looks that way to me. It is perfectly possible to say something, or give the appearance of saying something, without actually saying it in direct clear language. Oily politicians do it all the time. It's a coward's debating tactic.nino_savatte said:
Having said that, I wish the two of you could realise that you'll never actually convince each other or come to some sort of peace, so push the ignore button and get the fuck on with the rest of your lives. Please, for the sake of all the world's kittens, or whatever.
nino_savatte
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Crispy said:
No, I disagree; at no time did I imply durutti was a racist and if you read the post in the context that it was intended, you'll understand why I said what I did. Some people seem to think that they're the only ones allowed to be ironic. Durutti is one of those. He even had to summon torres to give him a helping hand. They're both bullies.
ViolentPanda said:Well, he hasn't called you a racist. To call you a racist he'd have to actually say "you're a racist".
Not his fault if you read his words and believe he's implying you're a racist, is it?
thats poor mate .. very poor .. you and i know there is more damage in implication and insinuation often that direct accusation
ViolentPanda
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durruti02 said:
Notice the wink at the end?
Obviously not.
ViolentPanda
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becky p said:The way that some people on here like to distort what others say is very sad.
nino blatantly insinuates that durrutti is a racist and look who comes to his defence! Not exactly a suprise.
Pity you've (as usual) got it wrong. eh becky?
nino_savatte
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durruti02 said:
You're a sad, silly man who thinks that he can get folk banned. You think that you're the only one who is permitted to use irony.
How arrogant. How pathetic.
ViolentPanda
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becky p said:And we all know what your definition of getting things wrong is don't we oh omnipotent one.
Do "we"?
Please tell me what my definition is then becky, ta very much.
If you don't think that doing so will make you look more silly than you already do, like.
ViolentPanda said:Do "we"?
Please tell me what my definition is then becky, ta very much.
If you don't think that doing so will make you look more silly than you already do, like.
Your definition of getting things wrong, is anybody who disagrees with you.
There are lots of boring men a bit like you,but you are an extreme case.
You seem to believe that you have some god givenright to stand on judgement on others.
ViolentPanda said:
yes i saw it .. i assumed it meant "it is your problem as these are your interpretations and with nowt more you can say no more".
so what did that wink mean to you VP? you of all people should not allow yourself to do cloak and dagger posts ... call a spade a spade mate .. say what you mean .. it is hard enough being clear on the internet without deliberately being obtuse
ViolentPanda
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Really?becky p said:
Strange how I've had plenty of disagreements with Urbanites, including your friend balders and his pal durutti, where I haven't told them they're wrong, just that I don't agree with them. Do you understand the distinction, or would you like it spelled out for you?
You keep wildly swinging becky, and you keep missing.
Whatever.
Like the opinion of some person who's made a handful of substantive posts out of her 280+ posts is worth a warm pavement pizza.
I believe that I live under a system that permits me to challenge other people if I disagree with them, it's called "freedom of expression", I believe. That means I'm as entitled to reply to someone's posts as you are. It's just that I make the attempt to render my replies substantive, whereas you go for sneering.You seem to believe that you have some god givenright to stand on judgement on others.
Try again, becky. Put a bit more effort in next time though, eh?
ViolentPanda
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durruti02 said:
The wink means "he hasn't called you a racist, he may have implied it, but that's an issue for you and him".
It could have also meant "it's obvious you two fancy each other, why not just bugger each other senseless and stop boring everyone else with you 'he said...', 'no, he said...' discourse", but it didn't.
ViolentPanda said:Really?
I believe that I live under a system that permits me to challenge other people if I disagree with them, it's called "freedom of expression", I believe. That means I'm as entitled to reply to someone's posts as you are. It's just that I make the attempt to render my replies substantive, whereas you go for sneering.
Try again, becky. Put a bit more effort in next time though, eh?
I do enjoy reading your attempts at 'substantive posts' your bombastic style is something I can only sit at and wonder at times.
My paltry efforts at humour are no match for your biting satire. Please don't allow me to distract you from your very important business of educating more deserving people.
ViolentPanda
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What was that you were burbling on about earlier?becky p said:
Oh yes, something about standing in judgement, wasn't it?
Mmm, even more "standing in judgement", with a little faux-demureness and a poor attempt at sarcasm thrown in..My paltry efforts at humour are no match for your biting satire. Please don't allow me to distract you from your very important business of educating more deserving people.
Don't worry though, becky, you're not a "distraction", that'd dignify the insignificance of your irritant effect.
ViolentPanda said:The wink means "he hasn't called you a racist, he may have implied it, but that's an issue for you and him".
It could have also meant "it's obvious you two fancy each other, why not just bugger each other senseless and stop boring everyone else with you 'he said...', 'no, he said...' discourse", but it didn't.
i have to say its funny how you get so UPRIGHT about some posters yet you do not seem bothered about the stream of bile and nonsense that emanates form other certain posters
ViolentPanda
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durruti02 said:i have to say its funny how you get so UPRIGHT about some posters yet you do not seem bothered about the stream of bile and nonsense that emanates form other certain posters
Do you mean "uptight", dear?
nino_savatte
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durruti02 said:i have to say its funny how you get so UPRIGHT about some posters yet you do not seem bothered about the stream of bile and nonsense that emanates form other certain posters
You're like a 3 year auld who's just had his lolly taken away from him.
The truth is this: you want to control the discourse and to do this, you will resort to smear tactics and other underhanded methods.
ViolentPanda said:Do you mean "uptight", dear?
Durruti might well have meant something special with the word 'upright', but should its use have been the result of a typo, it will be typical that it is you who has made mention of it. You have provided the word 'pedantic' with an explosion of expanded meaning, VP.
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