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Manchester United 19/20: You can't win anything with kids (revisited)
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chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I would like to see a win for Utd tooUnited win of course
Or an ugly, ill-disciplined, injury filled goalless draw with both managers sent to the stands.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I would like to see a win for Utd too
Or an ugly, ill-disciplined, injury filled goalless draw with both managers sent to the stands.
I'd be happy with your preference too tbh
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
United win of course
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
United beating spurs and citeh is good news for anyone looking to make a few bucks. i guarantee these two wins will be followed by a loss or draw to Everton. It always does. hopefully the bookies will make us big favourites. bet on everton and you will make some money
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
What a loser.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I'm a big fan of Pogba, so yes, if all else is equal.
However if:
a) he wants to go
and/or
b) His departure enables us to replace him with a couple of players who'd fit the plan going forward (e.g. Haaland, Sancho, Maddison, Odegaard, Havertz and their like)
...then, I'm ok with selling him.
He does have the ability to change a game with a pass and when he is playing well.
There is also a commercial element to having Pogba in your team which is annoying but can't be ignored.
Still rated (according to site) as the 3rd most valuable midfield player in the world at £90m
Most valuable players
Although using market value websites is not a great measure. Pogba is worth £10m more than Utd (over) paid for Maguire
There is also a commercial element to having Pogba in your team which is annoying but can't be ignored.
Still rated (according to site) as the 3rd most valuable midfield player in the world at £90m
Most valuable players
Although using market value websites is not a great measure. Pogba is worth £10m more than Utd (over) paid for Maguire
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
Draw, asshole
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
arsehole, arsehole.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
I predicted a draw
Predictions for today's game?
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
It's hardly a secret that Utd can struggle especially at home against teams that surrender the initiative and sit deep. The problem was amplified again on Sunday. Happily, the source of the problems are equally clear. With the absence of Pogba, creativity falls to Lingard, Periera, and Mata in such situations. None of them are up to the job. Nor is there someone coming through the ranks. Gomes looks like he might be shipping out. As a consequence Utd will have to buy to solve the problem.
Additionally, there is Martial at no 9. Not physically imposing enough. Limited effort without ball. In order for him to thrive opposition must play to his strength's. So another gap waiting to be filled. Greenwood could do it (7 goals already) and a stellar top drawer talent but having just turned 18 the burden on him could prove counter-productive over the longer term. Therefore Utd will have to dip again. Again no real problem. Finally there is the issue of Pogba. From the outside he looks like he's working his ticket. Which would be entirely in character both for him and his agent. Money will have to change hands again. Which is another way of saying that at present more than a third of the team is mal-functioning.
Nevertheless, 12 months in the job, Ole has to a large extent delivered the 'cultural re-set' desperately required. The deadwood non-Utd elements have to a large extent been made surplus to requirements or shipped out. In the departure lounge: Young, Matic, Jones, Mata. And coming through the ranks, Tuanzebe, Greenwood, Williams, Levitt.
Pseudo fans will point to recent draws against Villa Sheffield and Everton in order to justify the 'Ole out' narrative. 'Look at the table!' they screech. For them, beating City, Spurs, Chelsea, (also knocking them out of LC), Leicester and the only team to take points off Liverpool, are all irrelevant. Of course if Utd had beaten the likes of Wolves, Bournemouth, Palace, and the other 'lesser sides' they would be higher up the table, but what would it prove if they succumbed against Liverpool and City which happened under the previous incumbents. So Ole has the priorities right. Even allowing for the existing issues, when treated as equals - when teams do come to win, Utd have shown the can successfully trade punches with the best to them. For the first time in 6 years, Utd under Ole has recovered the all important football identity. Only a simpleton (or a Scouser) would argue otherwise.
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donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
I stopped reading at this point. anyone who thinks Pogba is the creative solution needs a head scan.
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
Up to the beginning of this season Pogba played in 99 PL games. Over the three years Pogba has 24 goals and 25 assists. In addition he has created 162 chances. And although he has often played considerably deeper than these three, only De Bruyne, Ericksen, and David Silva (in better teams) have been more creative in the same period.
How many assists/chances Mata, Periera, Lingard have between them in the same period?
Here's a tip: Lingard has zero assists in 18-19 so far.
Over to you loser.
How many assists/chances Mata, Periera, Lingard have between them in the same period?
Here's a tip: Lingard has zero assists in 18-19 so far.
Over to you loser.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
My brother took the youngest to see Santa today. Santa asked him what he wanted.
"Can I have a unicorn please Santa?"
"I think you need to lower your expectations young man" says Santa "Unicorns are one of the rarest animals in the universe, choose something else"
"OK I would like Manchester United to win the Premier League this year then?"
"What colour Unicorn did you say you wanted son?"
"Can I have a unicorn please Santa?"
"I think you need to lower your expectations young man" says Santa "Unicorns are one of the rarest animals in the universe, choose something else"
"OK I would like Manchester United to win the Premier League this year then?"
"What colour Unicorn did you say you wanted son?"
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