Manchester United 19/20: You can't win anything with kids (revisited)
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The39thStep
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There was a comment that Lindlelorf and McGuire are the most expensive centre half pairing in the EPL . If it's true then surely they must be the most expensive pairing in Europe and possibly the world? Who else can we think of ?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Think they displayed the same breathtaking precision all out attack in a Europa game last year as well
One could argue that two teams with thin squads and a lot of fixtures would balance out?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Best bit of the Carabao cup imoAnyway, the big game this evening
Two legs for the Carabao Cup seems a bit much to me.
Hardly seems worth it.
Going to be a long night for Utd I fear.
No Maguire
Phil Jones starting
Lingard starting
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
only half time
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
Compare the Utd victory at the Eithad to that performance and what Maguire and McTominay bring to the defence and midfield respectively ought to be clear to even the dullest of wits (yes, you). In terms of rebuild Periera, Fred and yes Lindelof are squad players at best. Pogba is working his ticket. Matic was due to be sold this window so he needs replacing as well. The less said about Jones and Lingard and Mata (name a squad they would improve?) the better.
When fit, Tuanzebe ought to slot in beside Maguire. Romero for De Gea would also help stability. James too looks like he needs a break. On the other hand although he was outnumbered on occasion Williams stuck impressively to his task. Ditto Wan Bissaka on the other side. While from the slimmest of pickings Greenwood picked up another assist to supplement his impressive goal tally. Levitt, Garner and Gomes should all be given more game time going forward. This may still be regarded as a risk but there really is no other viable alternatives.
When fit, Tuanzebe ought to slot in beside Maguire. Romero for De Gea would also help stability. James too looks like he needs a break. On the other hand although he was outnumbered on occasion Williams stuck impressively to his task. Ditto Wan Bissaka on the other side. While from the slimmest of pickings Greenwood picked up another assist to supplement his impressive goal tally. Levitt, Garner and Gomes should all be given more game time going forward. This may still be regarded as a risk but there really is no other viable alternatives.
Pretty scathing from the MEN
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
Some Manchester United players cannot survive this latest shambles
Man Utd were poor against a superb Man City at Old Trafford and lost 3-1 in the first leg of their Carabao Cup semi-final.
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
LOL. Only numb nuts think McTominay is a 1st team player. He wouldn't even get in the starting 11 at City or Liverpool. He is a squad player. Fred was a shite buy and needs to be sold. This nonsense about giving youth a chance will set us back a generation. Tuanzebe to play? LMFAO. Garbage. How to fuck can we achieve top 4 with Tuanzebe and Maquire partnership? Not a player worthy of playing for a United Team. Obi Wan Bassika hasn't impressed much. But we will have to stick with him. Maguire is shite but we will have to stick with him.
What was worse was that we lost to a team who for majority of the game were playing without a striker!!
We have pochettino sat at home doing nothing, while this clueless Norwegian is leading us to disaster after disaster. From Molde to Cardiff to United. WOW.
What was worse was that we lost to a team who for majority of the game were playing without a striker!!
We have pochettino sat at home doing nothing, while this clueless Norwegian is leading us to disaster after disaster. From Molde to Cardiff to United. WOW.
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The39thStep
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I think McTominay does ok tbh , hes one of the few to put in a full shift and for a defensive midfiled player gets the odd goalLOL. Only numb nuts think McTominay is a 1st team player. He wouldn't even get in the starting 11 at City or Liverpool. He is a squad player. Fred was a shite buy and needs to be sold. This nonsense about giving youth a chance will set us back a generation. Tuanzebe to play? LMFAO. Garbage. How to fuck can we achieve top 4 with Tuanzebe and Maquire partnership? Not a player worthy of playing for a United Team. Obi Wan Bassika hasn't impressed much. But we will have to stick with him. Maguire is shite but we will have to stick with him.
What was worse was that we lost to a team who for majority of the game were playing without a striker!!
We have pochettino sat at home doing nothing, while this clueless Norwegian is leading us to disaster after disaster. From Molde to Cardiff to United. WOW.
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
Agree. McTominay is old school Utd. Brave, honest direct, committed. It's also worth noting that he has less than 50 PL appearances and yet according to Nicky Butt, a formidable midfielder himself, McTominay is for him the 'first name on the team sheet'. At is 6.4 and almost 90 kg he is of course aggressive but surprisingly quick across the ground. As a consequence he is one of the most fouled players in the league. More importantly, in spite of just turning 23 he is already a leader on the pitch. A hallmark of a genuinely good player is that he improves those around him. With him, Fred can even look like a half decent footballer. Without McTominay holding the other end of the halter the Brazilian international struggles to come across as anything less than mediocre. With McTominay you have the basis of a midfield. Without him you have what was served up yesterday.
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
says it all, really. just 15 minutes.
Kevin De Bruyne says Manchester City spent just 15 minutes preparing false-nine plan
Bernardo Silva scored one goal and helped create two more playing as a false nine; Manchester City beat Manchester United 3-1 in their Carabao Cup semi-final first leg
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
Maguire would walk into that City team. Only a complete clown would pretend otherwise.LOL. Only numb nuts think McTominay is a 1st team player. He wouldn't even get in the starting 11 at City or Liverpool. He is a squad player. Fred was a shite buy and needs to be sold. This nonsense about giving youth a chance will set us back a generation. Tuanzebe to play? LMFAO. Garbage. How to fuck can we achieve top 4 with Tuanzebe and Maquire partnership? Not a player worthy of playing for a United Team. Obi Wan Bassika hasn't impressed much. But we will have to stick with him. Maguire is shite but we will have to stick with him.
What was worse was that we lost to a team who for majority of the game were playing without a striker!!
We have pochettino sat at home doing nothing, while this clueless Norwegian is leading us to disaster after disaster. From Molde to Cardiff to United. WOW.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
he couldn't score in a brothel
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I rate McTominay myself but think he is in a bit of a poisonous culture at Utd right now.
Players like him should be learning from other players and establishing themselves in a team, not put alongside Lingard against Man City. The challenge Utd face at this time is attracting new players given the current ownership, recruiting, managers, players and chances to win trophies/play in Europe.
I rate Maguire highly.
(Nowhere near as highly as VVD of course)
If Maguire was put in the defence of a functioning team/squad he would shine. That is not the case at Utd so he is scrabbling to try and cover others shortcomings rather than lead and organise. I know Utd paid £80m for him (more than VVD ffs) but he can't shine shit for them. If he had some half decent defenders around him then he could find his place in the squad. Jones FFS
The39thStep
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