Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 vanishes without trace

[Barking_Mad]

The two people travelling on stolen passport 'looked like Balotelli' according to a Malaysian official quoted on twitter.

Is it really that easy to forge a passport and swap photos over on EU passports?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Is it really that easy to forge a passport and swap photos over on EU passports?

They do it all the time on films

 

[Hulot]

Certainly not in all airports. Also, often immigration don't really care about which flight you are going on just that you have paid all fines owed in that country. It is down to the airline to check that the passenger has the right visa, valid passport etc for the route.

If someone slips through with a very high quality forged passport or whatever, the airlines often successfully argue in court that they could not be expected to spot that fake passport as their business is flying aircraft and not fraud detection. That is the job of immigration. Airlines can often get let off fines in these cases where it is hard to spot the dodgy passport.

What is needed is greater cooperation between immigration and airlines to keep people with false documents off flights. But immigration officers arent the easiest of people to work with!

We weren't talking about what the current practice is but about the capability to access the systems to be able to make the checks.

 

[Errol's son]

Is it really that easy to forge a passport and swap photos over on EU passports?

It is very hard to do well. But the quality of checks is often poor. I would imagine the airline does minimal checks on that route and I would imagine Malaysian immigration are lax with European passport holders leaving the country (unless they have overstayed which is what they are looking for most likely)

 

[Errol's son]

We weren't talking about what the current practice is but about the capability to access the systems to be able to make the checks.

In my limited experience of certain African airports, immigration do not have access to flight data.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

The two people travelling on stolen passport 'looked like Balotelli' according to a Malaysian official quoted on twitter.

Which seems to contradict this statement

The men who used them were of Asian appearance, Malaysia’s home minister said late on Sunday.

Ahmad Zahid Hamidi told state news agency Bernama: “I am still perturbed. Can’t these immigration officials think? Italian and Austrian [passports] but with Asian faces.”

 

[Barking_Mad]

Worm hole, ran out of gravity.

my two favourite "plausible explanations" from the t'web so far.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Areas being searched:

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Areas being searched:

Even if it exploded mid-air, would the debris really be scattered over an area that wide?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Worm hole, ran out of gravity.

my two favourite "plausible explanations" from the t'web so far.

Aliens, if you read some of the comments on the YouTube video playback from Flight Radar

 

[Errol's son]

Which seems to contradict this statement

Plenty of Asians have EU passports. The fact they have an EU passport shouldn't raise suspicion but the fact they have completely European non-Asian sounding names.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Plenty of Asians have EU passports. The fact they have an EU passport shouldn't raise suspicion but the fact they have completely European non-Asian sounding names.

Plenty of Asians also have European sounding names, especially if they have a European father.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Hong Kong’s Air Traffic Control Center reported on Mar 10th 2014 around 17:30L (09:30Z) that an airliner enroute on airway L642 reported via HF radio that they saw a large field of debris at position N9.72 E107.42 about 80nm southeast of Ho Chi Minh City, about 50nm off the south-eastern coast of Vietnam in the South China Sea and about 281nm northeast of the last known radar position. Ships have been dispatched to the reported debris field.

Google Map location of possible debris site:

HERE


edit: that's some way outside the area they have widened the search to, if it were proven correct.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Google Map location of possible debris site:

HERE


edit: that's some way outside the area they have widened the search to, if it were proven correct.

but still in the right direction, unlike Straits of Malacca. How far can debris travel in 3 days I wonder?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Plenty of Asians have EU passports. The fact they have an EU passport shouldn't raise suspicion but the fact they have completely European non-Asian sounding names.

Well anyway, that statement was contradicted with this one

SEPANG: Investigators studying CCTV footage of the two impostors who boarded flight MH370 with stolen passports have said they were not "Asian-looking".

Department of Civil Aviation director-general Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said authorities have studied the CCTV footage and confirmed the duo were not Asians.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

and who were the five passengers that checked in but didn't board?

 

[ViolentPanda]

What happened to the 239 passengers?

Most likely dead, you soapy cunt.

 

[ViolentPanda]

or the plane could have been stolen by a bondesque msster criminal

Damn those cat-stroking evil bastards!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

and who were the five passengers that checked in but didn't board?

happens all the time, especially with online check-in.


I think they should stop the search and put it all down to "One of those things."

 

[dylanredefined]

Even if it exploded mid-air, would the debris really be scattered over an area that wide?

Yes plane would be 10km up and going at 900 kmph any stuff that floats could be carried a long way.

 

[purves grundy]

happens all the time, especially with online check-in.
"

But their luggage was on board. EDIT: And, indeed, taken off again, as per below.

Then again, I've been on plenty of flights when luggage has been taken off after no show at boarding. Ppl mooch around duty free, get pissed, fall asleep.

 

[ShakespearO]

Given the lack of debris and the limited fuel load available, the aircraft must have landed at a facility where its presence can be kept quiet. This would probably be either in the Vietnamese jungle (where recommissioning an old USAF runway would be quite straightforward) or, more likely in a remote region of China where the air traffic controllers could be relied upon to keep their mouths firmly shut. We can safely rule out North Korea for obvious reasons.

Either way, it's not looking good for the passengers or their families.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

But their luggage was on board.

Was it? Not really been following the story tbh. Nothing has substantially changed with it since Saturday morning.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Given the lack of debris and the limited fuel load available, the aircraft must have landed at a facility where its presence can be kept quiet. This would probably be either in the Vietnamese jungle (where recommissioning an old USAF runway would be quite straightforward) or, more likely in a remote region of China where the air traffic controllers could be relied upon to keep their mouths firmly shut. We can safely rule out North Korea for obvious reasons.

Either way, it's not looking good for the passengers or their families.

EH? WTF is this bollocks?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

But their luggage was on board.

Then again, I've been on plenty of flights when luggage has been taken off after no show at boarding. Ppl mooch around duty free, get pissed, fall asleep.

I read their luggage was removed

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

EH? WTF is this bollocks?

Quite. Got all the way to China or the Vietnamese jungle in under 1 hour?

They would have flown over the Malaysian jungle though, but they did just that, flew over

 

[Idris2002]

Given the lack of debris and the limited fuel load available, the aircraft must have landed at a facility where its presence can be kept quiet. This would probably be either in the Vietnamese jungle (where recommissioning an old USAF runway would be quite straightforward) or, more likely in a remote region of China where the air traffic controllers could be relied upon to keep their mouths firmly shut. We can safely rule out North Korea for obvious reasons.

Either way, it's not looking good for the passengers or their families.

Get to fuck.

 

[dylanredefined]

Given the lack of debris and the limited fuel load available, the aircraft must have landed at a facility where its presence can be kept quiet. This would probably be either in the Vietnamese jungle (where recommissioning an old USAF runway would be quite straightforward) or, more likely in a remote region of China where the air traffic controllers could be relied upon to keep their mouths firmly shut. We can safely rule out North Korea for obvious reasons.

Either way, it's not looking good for the passengers or their families.

Is that you Jazz?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

But their luggage was on board.

Then again, I've been on plenty of flights when luggage has been taken off after no show at boarding. Ppl mooch around duty free, get pissed, fall asleep.

Five people checked in to board the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 jet but cancelled their travel at the last minute, say Malaysian authorities.


The would-be passengers had also checked in their baggage which was later removed from the aircraft in line with the usual procedures, said Malaysia's civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman.

 

[2hats]

the Vietnamese jungle (where recommissioning an old USAF runway would be quite straightforward) or, more likely in a remote region of China where the air traffic controllers could be relied upon to keep their mouths firmly shut.

You've ruled out alien abduction then?

We can safely rule out North Korea for obvious reasons.

We can?