Mail: a truly despicable article ("nothing 'natural' about Stephen Gately's death")

[untethered]

Which is probably why few on here are suggesting it as a realistic possibility.

Jolly well done the majority of contributors to this thread.

 

[john x]

Jolly well done the majority of contributors to this thread.

Well we are obviously reading different threads so there is no point in going any further with this.

john x

 

[untethered]

Well we are obviously reading different threads so there is no point in going any further with this.

Your facepalm threshold is incredibly low. Must hurt quite a bit I'd imagine.

 

[john x]

Your facepalm threshold is incredibly low. Must hurt quite a bit I'd imagine.

What is facepalm?

john x

 

[untethered]

What is facepalm?

 

[john x]

I thought that was 'Doh' as in ......

john x

 

[untethered]

I thought that was 'Doh' as in ......

You will note that the gentleman in your cartoon has his hand on his forehead rather than his face.

 

[Gingerman]

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/10/will-mail-react-to-moir-as-it-expected.html
Gpwm

 

[Gingerman]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ut-biggest-celebrity-twitterers-internet.html
Oh dear,a sad pathetic attempt at revenge ,that sound you're hearing is a large barrel being scraped

 

[john x]

You will note that the gentleman in your cartoon has his hand on his forehead rather than his face.

Only if I can be arsed to look that closely.

It's only a frigging smilie at the end of the day!

john x

 

[Maggot]

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2009/10/will-mail-react-to-moir-as-it-expected.html
Gpwm

Great article, points out the extent of the Mail's hypocrisy.

 

[Guineveretoo]

Moir "defends" her article

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a182458/moir-defends-stephen-gately-column.html

Still no apology, or acknowledgement of offence given, other than to "the gay community".

 

[stethoscope]

Still no apology, or acknowledgement of offence given, other than to "the gay community".

And the piece is still there

 

[Awesome Wells]

Amanda Platell next please, who explicitly thinks that everyone claiming benefit is doing so fraudulently with their gp's complicity.

 

[kyser_soze]

Why can't everyone accept that this is an exchange of ideas and nowt more? Leaving aside most of the wildly off the mark comments about media buying from both emergent groups on this thread, just as the hells angels who use their engines to drown out phelps and the westboro baptists at soldiers funerals, this is an excercise where a usually quiesecent demograph have shouted, loudly, and created a noise heard above Big Media.

It won't stop the mail from printing stuff like this again; it really won't lead to m&s removing the most valuable piece of press it has on it's media schedules; it might lead to moir not getting work. It's also demonstrated to the mail that there is a new balance in media, and that the press don't occupy a space where they will always remain unchallenged. And it's been fun

 

[john x]

Amanda Platell next please, who explicitly thinks that everyone claiming benefit is doing so fraudulently with their gp's complicity.

She can't be very bright! Everyone knows you don't need a GP to claim benefit!

john x

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Moir "defends" her article

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a182458/moir-defends-stephen-gately-column.html

Still no apology, or acknowledgement of offence given, other than to "the gay community".

She should have titled her statement "Homophobic - Moir?"

 

[john x]

She should have titled her statement "Homophobic - Moir?"

john x

 

[Awesome Wells]

She can't be very bright! Everyone knows you don't need a GP to claim benefit!

john x

'twas her comment yesterday regarding MP's expenses. I'm sure she thinks she meant IB claimants but the article just says people on benefits. What really aggravates me about this sort of shit is that it's made in such an offhand way, without any thought given to its veracity. Kind of like chucking a live grenade over your shoulder as if it were litter. Two million people she explicitly labels thus and paints their doctors as equally feckless. Fucking ignorant bitch.

 

[temper_tantrum]

Article vaguely in favour of Twitter by one of Moir's colleagues:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ge-libel-lawyers--new-virtual-conscience.html

 

[pinkmonkey]

Two million people she explicitly labels thus

Yeah but it's Daily Mail island where all teenagers are unemployed and binge drinking, all single mothers are useless, unemployed, scorunging and binge drinking, all gay marriages are plagued with perversion, drugs and binge drinking and....<goes on for several years>

 

[5t3IIa]

20,000+ on the group now

 

[5t3IIa]

It's gone up 150 in 15 mins.

 

[john x]

Article vaguely in favour of Twitter by one of Moir's colleagues:

More importantly than her views on Twitter, she slags off Moir's article in no uncertain terms!

john x

 

[stethoscope]

Suzanne Moore is about the best of a bad bunch in the Fail.

 

[Badger Kitten]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...ge-libel-lawyers--new-virtual-conscience.html

First she calls Twitter 'our new virtual conscience' and then she says

Whatever killed Stephen, it wasn’t being gay

Let's get just one thing clear: the cause of Stephen Gately’s death was not gayness.

He was a young man. I don’t know if he had sex or alcohol on the night he died.

Many young men do drink and have sex, though, don’t they? Or is that just a gay thing?

I asked on Twitter (obviously) what ‘sudden adult death syndrome’ was, as I didn’t know. I am not sure I do now.

But what has been so offensive to many are the insinuations that his death is connected to the death of comedian Matt Lucas’s ex. How is it?

Or that these tragedies are somehow the result of civil partnerships – as though ‘straight’ marriages are non-stop heaven.

The outrage over the way Gately has been written about – like the furore after X Factor judge Dannii Minogue’s outing of contestant Danyl Johnson – shows we live in an age where being gay just does not bother many people.

Those who pruriently pick over the circumstances of Gately’s death will find that no doctor signed a certificate with cause of death ‘homosexuality’.

A man was kicked to death in Central London recently by two teenage girls because he was gay.

So while many of us could not care less, homophobia is alive and kicking. It is repulsive to see it repeatedly kicking the corpse of a popular young guy.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...rs--new-virtual-conscience.html#ixzz0UHwbplUv

The comments following all get it - shame she couldn't nail Moir explicityly, but I think she went as far as she could get away with. Well done Moore.

 

[stethoscope]

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[Sweaty Betty]

Well done Moore- apart from one dodgy reference she nails it but would have been nice if she made reference to her nasty colleague!!!

 

[yardbird]

Hey 5t3IIa - soon to be 25.000

 

[Badger Kitten]

Another Mail columnist breaks ranks...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ay-killed-man-week--wasnt-Stephen-Gately.html

Bloody hell. First Suzanne Moore implicitly goes there in the Mail on Sunday, then Street-Porter breaks ranks and explicitly disses Moir's column.

Moir officially on the ropes.

...So I was astonished to read in Jan Moir's column last Friday that his death 'strikes another blow to the happy-ever-after myth of civil partnerships', and 'under the carapace of glittering hedonistic celebrity, the ooze of a very different and more dangerous lifestyle has seeped out for all to see'.


What exactly was bothering Jan? The fact Stephen was gay, the fact he was in a civil partnership, or the fact that he or his partner might have enjoyed sex with someone they had just met?

I don't think that gay men all behave in the same way - there are as many varieties of relationships within the gay community as there are in the straight one.

Civil Partnerships are just that - they are not marriages. And let's not forget, whether Jan likes it or not, they have been enshrined in law by our democratically elected parliament.

If Stephen and his partner went to a nightclub and returned to their flat with another man, is it really any of our business?

Fact - Stephen Gately died of natural causes, not from guilt. It's not as if extra-marital sex is unusual in our society.


Tragic: Boyzone star Stephen Gately died of natural causes

Plenty of married men and women go out, pick up strangers and have threesomes, and yet we are not claiming that marriage as an institution is on the rocks.

Vanessa George, the paedophile who abused small children and who still refuses to identify them, was married with children.

What people get up to behind their front doors is up to them. I didn't think that Stephen Gately's death was sanitised, as Jan claims.

Far from it. In fact, some of the Press implied the singer had been on a drinking binge, whereas now the barman in the club he visited claims Stephen was sober.

Last week, another homosexual man died, but he didn't get an obituary in the Telegraph like Robert Key or lurid front pages like Stephen and Kevin.

Ian Baynham, a civil servant, who by all accounts was a thoroughly decent man and a good neighbour, died after an alleged attack right in the middle of London, in full view of passers-by in Trafalgar Square.

After shouting homophobic abuse at him, his assailants are accused of punching and kicking him, leaving him with fatal head injuries.

No one went to his aid. Two teenage girls and an 18-year-old boy have been arrested.

Over the past year, the number of attacks against gay men and women in London has risen nearly 20 per cent, and in a recent survey 90 per cent of the gay men and women questioned said they had experienced homophobic insults and abuse.

That concerns me a hell of a lot more than what goes on between consenting adults behind closed doors.

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This has fucking worked, line in sand, things have started to change.

About bloody time.

Well done everyone.