Losing benefit if you're an addict or obese

[WouldBe]

Maybe providing more, free or subsidised exercise facilities

Like walking 200 yards to the shop instead of driving. That's free.

 

[WouldBe]

Obesity and the lack of physical exercise are linked. I look at football, a national obsession, invented here, played every ware, an industry of immeasurable cash flow, yet get out of the towns into the sticks and sports facilities are really thinly spread and poor quality.

As kids we used to play football on the streets or the local park. Roads are quieter out in the sticks and they have things called fields you could play in.

 

[WouldBe]

Serious obesity is fucking complex you cant quit food like drugs or alcohol.

You don't have to stuff your face either.

 

[WouldBe]

Obesity is not always as simple as eating too much and exercising too little, I can think of several conditions and treatments that exhibit obesity as a side effect (like polycystic ovaries and steroids, as examples)

Sorry but that's BS. There is no medical condition or medication that makes your arm uncontrollably shove food down your throat.

 

[WouldBe]

Lamb, pork or mutton?

All 3 and a beef chop as well.

 

[Chilli.s]

The country is fucked, no one values the bin men, the dinner Ladies, the street sweepers. People aspire to be in a management position so they get an easy ride. No value placed on another's time.

 

[DotCommunist]

its just tory trumpets playing for the crowd

you already have some addictions tied to mandatory services to mantain your benefit conditionality. Its not new. Its just these fucking enochs wanking in the direction of their core vote. Expect it to get more ludicrous as the months before may go on

 

[Chilli.s]

Sorry but that's BS. There is no medical condition or medication that makes your arm uncontrollably shove food down your throat.

Yeah, but sometimes its the little comforts like food that make life bearable.

 

[WouldBe]

stopping taking food and you die and food pushers are everywhere they even deliver

True but there is some middle ground. Just stop shovelling so much food into your face.

 

[SaskiaJayne]

To give Miliband his due, he is now making noises about tax avoidance, but he is doing absolutely nothing to challenge bash-the-poor rhetoric, or to indicate that he will maintain (far less improve) services which have been cut, all of which leads me to suspect that nothing's really changed.

Provided Labour gets in with some sort of coalition then we will have to see what happens. Any elected government will want to get re elected after their first term. I think the electorate, even the former Thatcher lovers who's grown up kids still live with them because they can't afford to buy a house their parents easily afforded are realising the Thatcher experiment that begain in 1980 & perpetrated by Nu Labour has now reached its sorry & inevitable conclusion. All the Tories have to offer is more of the same, they cannot deviate far from that because their super rich mates won't let them. I think the electorate has had enough of this & want some change, Labour will go with that, I think.

 

[8115]

Like walking 200 yards to the shop instead of driving. That's free.

What shop? The local one stop, known for its range of high quality fresh foods? We have structural problems in our country around this kind of thing.

And I shudder to think what kind of treatment programs A4E and others will put on. I doubt reputable organisations would touch this with a bargepole.

 

[Orang Utan]

Labour are going to at least use lube
The wars would have happened under tory rule possibly slightly less miss managed torys luve a good war and if you must have a war at least fight to win it .

And how do you think UKIP would propose to deal with this 'problem'?

 

[Chilli.s]

As kids we used to play football on the streets or the local park. Roads are quieter out in the sticks and they have things called fields you could play in.

Hope thats a joke!

 

[Orang Utan]

Sorry but that's BS. There is no medical condition or medication that makes your arm uncontrollably shove food down your throat.

Yeah there is.
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Binge-eating/Pages/Introduction.aspx

 

[WouldBe]

Yeah, but sometimes its the little comforts like food that make life bearable.

I graze on food throughout the day but I then have sensible sized portions of food at mealtimes. You only need look at programs like "supersize v superskinny" where some people are shovelling 3times more food into them per day than they actually need and then wonder why they are overweight.

 

[WouldBe]

What shop? The local one stop, known for its range of high quality fresh foods? We have structural problems in our country around this kind of thing.

And I shudder to think what kind of treatment programs A4E and others will put on. I doubt reputable organisations would touch this with a bargepole.

I use my "local one stop" and the local kebab shop and I'm 13 stone and have been for years yet some of the locals round here who only live 100-200 yards away will insist on driving instead of walking.

 

[WouldBe]

Hope thats a joke!

Why would it be a joke. You complained that people were fat because of a lack of free or subsidised exercise facilities. Playing football in a field, going for long walks in the countryside, climbing trees, there's all sorts of ways you can get free exercise in the countryside if you can be bothered to get off arse and do it.

 

[andysays]

Provided Labour gets in with some sort of coalition then we will have to see what happens. Any elected government will want to get re elected after their first term. I think the electorate, even the former Thatcher lovers who's grown up kids still live with them because they can't afford to buy a house their parents easily afforded are realising the Thatcher experiment that begain in 1980 & perpetrated by Nu Labour has now reached its sorry & inevitable conclusion. All the Tories have to offer is more of the same, they cannot deviate far from that because their super rich mates won't let them. I think the electorate has had enough of this & want some change, Labour will go with that, I think.

I'm afraid that's all wishful thinking on your part, IMO.

Labour are also courting the same super-rich to be their mates (see recent statement about Labour being good for/friends of business), and are showing absolutely no sign of recognising that there is a mood for change or any indication that they will do anything substantially different if they do get elected.

You and I are old enough that we have both heard this stuff about how Labour have to appear responsible/sensible in order to get elected, but once in office they will show their true socialist or even social democratic colours too many times. I'm baffled that you can still be taken in by it.

 

[ViolentPanda]

As kids we used to play football on the streets or the local park. Roads are quieter out in the sticks and they have things called fields you could play in.

If you want to risk an arse cheek full of birdshot, sure!

 

[purenarcotic]

I graze on food throughout the day but I then have sensible sized portions of food at mealtimes. You only need look at programs like "supersize v superskinny" where some people are shovelling 3times more food into them per day than they actually need and then wonder why they are overweight.

Your patronising and judgemental attitude is really vile to read.

 

[Blagsta]

Sorry but that's BS. There is no medical condition or medication that makes your arm uncontrollably shove food down your throat.

Often obesity and over eating is a psychological compulsion, an attempt to manage difficult emotions.

 

[Orang Utan]

Your patronising and judgemental attitude is really vile to read.

Indeed, especially coming from someone who should be showing a bit of solidarity. Shame on you, WouldBe

 

[Blagsta]

True but there is some middle ground. Just stop shovelling so much food into your face.

Oh fuck off

 

[andysays]

Your patronising and judgemental attitude is really vile to read.

They're another sad example of the increase in addiction to overconsumption of vile neo-liberal and anti-human propaganda, though it's difficult to have any sympathy for them - surely they could just stop reading the Daily Mail

 

[SaskiaJayne]

I'm not taken in by anything andysays , I'm saying wait & see. Things go in cycles, the Thatcher years are in their final death throws, possibly. Its possible things could change, new politicians come along all the time as the old ones retire. No small new party is going to be electable, the main players will always be Labour & Tory, the left wingers who actually think they can make a difference will have to join Labour if they want to get into Parliment, thats how it's always worked. One needs to remain optimistic or there is no hope at all, this is not being 'taken in', I remain cynical but I'm failing to see how 'austerity'(for the working classes that is)can continue because it does not work.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Its dog whistle bollocks which is not going to become any sort of meaningful policy. Still - it really needs to be vigorously and publicly opposed for all the reasons given above. I fully expect the labour party to be fearlessly mealy-mouthed and lame in response.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Lamb, pork or mutton?

I was going to go with a full mixed grill joke....but won't bother now.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Its not going to happen, so see this for what it is, a Tory election gaff & a gift for Labour. I guess even the squeezed middle are getting pissed off with this continuous Tory 'let off the rich & fuck the poor' shit.

This isn't a gaff; it is playing to their core constituency who they fear will be off to UKIP. However, you are right that this won't happen; it's just narrow minded noise.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[toggle]

Sorry but that's BS. There is no medical condition or medication that makes your arm uncontrollably shove food down your throat.

and you're wrong

even ignoring your choice to be an arsehole and your ignorance about the hormonal feedback that controls appetite, you're still wrong.

 

[likesfish]

And how do you think UKIP would propose to deal with this 'problem'?

God knows cant really hunt the obese with hounds it wouldnt be much of a challenge
Give them time I'm sure they will come out with something even more idiotic