London SlutWalk - now *11th*June, 1pm Trafalgar Square

[mentalchik]

Slut is pretty unisex these days.

maybe where you live/socialise but it certainly isn't in the world i inhabit...........never ever heard it used when referring to a man for instance

And, as the title suggests, it is not about dress. It refers both to the habitual practice of presenting and treating women as sex objects, regardless of their other role(s), and to the idea that was enshrined in law until 20 years ago and still persists in the legal system to this day, that a woman who has said yes once will necessarily mean yes every time. That when we admit to liking sex, we automatically want any old cock inside us. But really we're only stealing free drinks, so frankly we deserve it. See.

yup

 

[Gromit]

This is going well

We need to organise a 'dour blokes in pubs' march, ideally in Soho

So now its dour to want social interaction to take on a platform of genuine mutual respect.

Its not alright to think slut, shes gagging for it, just get a few more drinks down her neck and she's mine.
It is alright to think walking wallet, take him for everything i can whether he is a sleeze or not.

Is that what you are saying?

Equality when it suits you and not when it doesn't.

 

[Blagsta]

So now its dour to want social interaction to take on a platform of genuine mutual respect.

Its not alright to think slut, shes gagging for it, just get a few more drinks down her neck and she's mine.
It is alright to think walking wallet, take him for everything i can whether he is a sleeze or not.

Is that what you are saying?

Equality when it suits you and not when it doesn't.

Men have the option of not buying drinks.

 

[Gromit]

Men have the option of not buying drinks.

And the option of apparrently being mocked for it on here when they exercise that right.

Are you implying that women don't have the option of not acting slutty to blag drinks?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

And the option of apparrently being mocked for it on here when they exercise that right.

Are you implying that women don't have the option of not acting slutty to blag drinks?

Grow up you cry baby loser

 

[Blagsta]

"acting slutty"

 

[gavman]

If you experience pain akin to someone "twisting the knife" every time you see an attractive girl pass by, I'd suggest you may some rather troubling psychological problems to sort out, to be honest.

the threshold is rather higher than you are saying here. it hasn't actually happened for several years. i'm not the potential sex attacker your post suggests

 

[ddraig]

jesus gromit!
stop digging man

 

[Gromit]

"acting slutty"

I haven't even mentioned the classic Thesbian approach (Thespian crossed with lesbian).

Two straight girls snogging each other where as many men as possible can see them. Thats a pure drinks all night move that one.

e.t.a. I'd like to underline the fact I said 'acting' slutty and not 'being' slutty. Putting on an act for the sake of drinks. Often the girls are in full relationships.

 

[Blagsta]

You got some issues.

 

[editor]

the threshold is rather higher than you are saying here. it hasn't actually happened for several years. i'm not the potential sex attacker your post suggests

I'm only commenting on the very words you posted up.

 

[Gromit]

You got some issues.

I like people to be and act genuine and not try and take advantage of one another.

If thats issues I'll take it and happily.

Perhaps its considered acceptable in London because of the culture up there. City bouys and WAG wannabes.

I've never liked it.

 

[Blagsta]

Way to miss the point.

 

[Belushi]

I live in London and I dont think I've ever been asked by a girl to buy her a drink or seen any 'thesbians' although tbf I dont go to that many bars.

 

[phildwyer]

I haven't even mentioned the classic Thesbian approach (Thespian crossed with lesbian).

Two straight girls snogging each other where as many men as possible can see them. Thats a pure drinks all night move that one.

e.t.a. I'd like to underline the fact I said 'acting' slutty and not 'being' slutty. Putting on an act for the sake of drinks. Often the girls are in full relationships.

Yep. I hate that one I do. Then there's the old "oral sex on a donkey" trick. Do it in front of a load of blokes and expect free drinks for a year.

Often the donkeys are in full relationships.

 

[tufty79]

I live in London and I dont think I've ever been asked by a girl to buy her a drink or seen any 'thesbians' although tbf I dont go to that many bars.

i recall you buying me a cuppa at some point. remind me i owe you a shag. or at least a hand shandy.

(it was a very nice cuppa, tbf, i might up the recompense offer)

 

[Belushi]

i recall you buying me a cuppa at some point. remind me i owe you a shag.

IIRC You were wearing about sixteen layers at the time, I was powerless to resist.

 

[miss minnie]

I like people to be and act genuine and not try and take advantage of one another.

If thats issues I'll take it and happily.

Perhaps its considered acceptable in London because of the culture up there. City bouys and WAG wannabes.

I've never liked it.

Flirting tends to be insincere, playful, deceptive, it has been around since year dot, it evolves and has apparently been useful as a tool for keeping the human species thriving.

There there (((Gromit))), I'm crap at it also.

 

[Gromit]

i recall you buying me a cuppa at some point. remind me i owe you a shag. or at least a hand shandy.

(it was a very nice cuppa, tbf, i might up the recompense offer)

Now you seem to be missing the point.

No one is saying or implying that anyone is obligated to have sex with you if you buy them 1 drink or many drinks.

What I am stating is that pretending interest in someone and using your looks solely for the purposes of blagging a drinks off people is.

 

[Gromit]

Flirting tends to be insincere, playful, deceptive, it has been around since year dot, it evolves and has apparently been useful as a tool for keeping the human species thriving.

There there (((Gromit))), I'm crap at it also.

Well thats certainly true. I am crap at flirting or spotting flirting.

Its more than possible that a girl has asked me to by her a drink as genuine opener to conversation and I've dissed her as a chancer. The unfortunately side effect off seeing too many chancers.

 

[gavman]

I'm only commenting on the very words you posted up.

you did twist them a bit. i said 'when i see a gorgeous girl dressed in skimpy clothing' and you changed that to 'every time an attractive girl passes by'. quite a big difference, in that one happens often and the other hasn't for as long as i can remember.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

I haven't even mentioned the classic Thesbian approach (Thespian crossed with lesbian).

Two straight girls snogging each other where as many men as possible can see them. Thats a pure drinks all night move that one.

e.t.a. I'd like to underline the fact I said 'acting' slutty and not 'being' slutty. Putting on an act for the sake of drinks. Often the girls are in full relationships.

are you posting this nonsense for a bet or something?

 

[editor]

you did twist them a bit. i said 'when i see a gorgeous girl dressed in skimpy clothing' and you changed that to 'every time an attractive girl passes by'. quite a big difference, in that one happens often and the other hasn't for as long as i can remember.

Straws. Clutched at. Desperately.

 

[phildwyer]

Well thats certainly true. I am crap at flirting or spotting flirting.

Its more than possible that a girl has asked me to by her a drink as genuine opener to conversation and I've dissed her as a chancer. The unfortunately side effect off seeing too many chancers.

Absolutely.

But you know what I really hate? When they don't even bother with the old "buy me a drink" routine, but try some even more sneaky move. Telling you they like your shoes, or that you've got nice eyes, that kind of malarky.

Those kinds of chancers get pretty short shrift from me I can tell you.

 

[gavman]

Straws. Clutched at. Desperately.

if you say so. there's no pretence at being fair minded at all, is there?
i'm not having you portray me as something i'm not.

 

[Gromit]

are you posting this nonsense for a bet or something?

I was trolling (i prefer the phrase stimulating extra discussion) earlier in the thread I'll admit.

But when it comes to women exploiting their looks and for the sake of a couple of drinks, I'm serious in my distaste.

What amazes me is the number of people on here supporting it instead of critising it for hindering feminist progress and helping to perpetuate patriacal attitudes or such like.

 

[tufty79]

I was trolling (i prefer the phrase stimulating extra discussion) earlier in the thread I'll admit.

But when it comes to women exploiting their looks and for the sake of a couple of drinks, I'm serious in my distaste.

What amazes me is the number of people on here supporting it instead of critising it for hindering feminist progress and helping to perpetuate patriacal attitudes or such like.

what about us poor ones that don't have the looks? how're we meant to get our free drinks?

 

[grit]

Skimpily-clas trollop: Hiya Handsome, want to buy me a drink?
Gromit: Nah
Skimpily-clas trollop: How about if I push my breasts out a bit more?
Gromit: Nah
Skimpily-clas trollop: What if i rub against you a bit, that never fails.
Gromit: Nah
Skimpily-clas trollop: You must be gay, i'll try that ugly bloke over there, he'll be desperate and so easy to blag.

There is a grain of truth in that.

 

[phildwyer]

I was trolling (i prefer the phrase stimulating extra discussion) earlier in the thread I'll admit.

But when it comes to women exploiting their looks and for the sake of a couple of drinks, I'm serious in my distaste.

What amazes me is the number of people on here supporting it instead of critising it for hindering feminist progress and helping to perpetuate patriacal attitudes or such like.

I couldn't agree more. In fact I think you should organize a "Tightwads for Feminism" march.

 

[phildwyer]

Or "Misers Against Patriarchy."

I'll start making the banners. "Buy Your Own Drinks, Sluts." "Do You Think I'm Made of Money?" "Snog Your Mate All You Want: You Won't Get A Penny From Me."