London Anarchist bookfair 2020
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Athos
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A genius double bluff.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
LDC did mention above that my impression of the Cowley seemed a bit out of date. Which is fine, I suppose, I don't live in Brighton and don't need to know about it.
danny la rouge
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Lol, it’s not. I’ll see if I can find a draft.
However it’s not that dissimilar to the new one. We just felt it needed refreshed.
danny la rouge
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It’s actually on this thread: London Anarchist bookfair 2020
ETA - directs to a particular post by Serge Forward
ETA - directs to a particular post by Serge Forward
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Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
I think you'll find that on this issue any calls for peace, love and understanding will be deemed egregious by some.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Well 70+ pages for an event in London. I might have a good bit of time on my hands, but there are limits.
And thanks for sending it through. For what it's worth, it doesn't sound like an unreasonable statement and doesn't strike me as transphobic in any way, but what would I know.
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danny la rouge
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The link was to a particular post from comrade Serge.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Oh, FFS. I've now started reading the whole thread. I planned on doing shit today.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
In the Soviet era you could get denounced by your ideologically pure children. Getting denounced by your own sockpuppet is the way it runs in the internet age.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Don't tell him Pike!
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Fwiw, I think it is still on the website, just you have to scroll down a long way to read it:
Statements - Anarchist Communist Group
The following are statements by the Anarchist Communist Group since its formation in February 2018, 8 April 2021 (this statement supersedes the earlier statement of 11 August 2019) Trans Rights Statement We, the ACG, reaffirm our support for trans and non-binary people. We...
www.anarchistcommunism.org
Might make that page easier to navigate if you added a table of contents thing at the top with links to the point on the page where each statement starts, which I don't know how to do myself but imagine would be fairly possible for someone who's better at web design than me to do?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Given Rhyddical's record of giving clear, straightforward answers to straightforward questions, I'm sure they'll be along shortly to give a neat, unambiguous answer that everyone can be satisfied with on the question of whether or not they're East Dulwich postcode and/or a terf.In the Soviet era you could get denounced by your ideologically pure children. Getting denounced by your own sockpuppet is the way it runs in the internet age.
danny la rouge
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Sadly I’m one of those in charge of upkeep of the website. I’m 56. These are all my own teeth.Fwiw, I think it is still on the website, just you have to scroll down a long way to read it:
Statements - Anarchist Communist Group
The following are statements by the Anarchist Communist Group since its formation in February 2018, 8 April 2021 (this statement supersedes the earlier statement of 11 August 2019) Trans Rights Statement We, the ACG, reaffirm our support for trans and non-binary people. We...
Might make that page easier to navigate if you added a table of contents thing at the top with links to the point on the page where each statement starts, which I don't know how to do myself but imagine would be fairly possible for someone who's better at web design than me to do?
But, yeah, the substantive point is that the old statement is still sound. It just needed to flow a bit better.
And there’s no dog whistles because we have no intention of giving succour to transphobes. Of course, as chilango says, whatever the issue those who have problems with us have, it’s not transphobia. What it is, I have no idea.
But I’m happy to discuss it with SE22 They don’t know me, but they seem to be happy to decide what I secretly believe inside, despite my words and actions.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming that the ACG's response to trans stuff is perfect. No one's has been. Including Urban (one reason why I've not been posting as much here recently).
But "not perfect" does not mean transphobic.
...and I'll tell you one thing for sure, all of this toxic bullshit does not aid our trans comrades nor the wider movements one bit.
But "not perfect" does not mean transphobic.
...and I'll tell you one thing for sure, all of this toxic bullshit does not aid our trans comrades nor the wider movements one bit.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
If there was one positive to come out of this whole shit show it would be if critics of the ACG and/or bookfair collective actually engaged with this statement. As it is, they seem stuck in what probably feels like a comfortable place, denunciations and red lines. As you mention Danny and also Chilango, this has become disconnected from what the actual politics and positions of the ACG are. Not uncommon for political (and personal) battles to end up like that, but it's also very depressing and even a bit disturbing.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Exactly.
I know I’m not perfect. Think I can do better? You’re probably right. Talk to me.
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Why do you hate trans people !!!
(Is what some people would say in response to that )
ska invita
back on the other side
i dont think those 2 statements are per se the big offending issue...
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Theyve only just discovered PDFs! One step at a time.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
No I agree. I know about the split and about the supposed support for particular alleged terfs circa 2017-18, though I'm not involved and don't know about any other flashpoints. However the statements look like a way of moving on and getting some degree of mutual accommodation.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
...though the point I'm grasping for isn't even about the statements. It just that the denunciations are very much of the fingers in ears shouty type. All very reassuring as a way of shoring up certainty and red lines, but not a very mature way of dealing with comrades.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Hang on, there’s something about bus stops. Maybe ACG have been banned for being unkind about the the hostile architecture smashers
ska invita
back on the other side
i tried to ignore it but have to ask now - wtf is this bus stop (hostile architecture) thing?
facepalm is ready
facepalm is ready
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Anti homeless bullshit. Spikes and slanted seats all over the shop
danny la rouge
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As far as I know nobody’s had any contact with them. I certainly hadn’t heard of them.
Hostile architecture is nasty shit though.
Fozzie Bear
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December 12 2020:
29 May, 2021:
Full Stop Affinity's Final Statement - Green Anti-Capitalist Media
Our friends in Full Stop Affinity have sent us their final statement previous to their disbandment as a group
greenanticapitalist.org
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