List of those for whom Welfare Reform and cuts were too much to bear

[trampie]

So where will I head for political asylum, north or west?

The Celts have always been welcoming to those that come in peace so your choice.

 

[ericjarvis]

The Celts have always been welcoming to those that come in peace so your choice.

Tell me about it!

My ancestry is Cornish. The bastards picked us off first.

 

[trampie]

Tell me about it!

My ancestry is Cornish. The bastards picked us off first.

The Celts are caring sharing types, the Welsh would divide land between the family after the death of the head of a family none of this son and heir stuff and women had rights too, do they have the vote these days in occupied Cornwall ?, anyway it would take far to long to tell you about it you will have to do your own research, the internet is a marvellous resource but it is very hard for authorities to stop people learning things they rather they did not know, i bet you learned about 1066 and ww1 and 2 in school and that was about it, education was/is a way of controlling the masses.
Being Cornish i would say West would be your best bet.

 

[ViolentPanda]

This whole thread is a terrible indictment of this country, the middle class wannabes and their trade unions have got to take a close look at themselves, police, teachers etc wanting more and more and expecting the low paid and poor to pay for it through taxes is a disgrace, its the me me me society, politically England is lost, its policies are so right wing the Celts will soon need binoculars to see them, the country has not recovered since the English voted Thatcher in appealing to peoples greed, if England doesn't pull back we will be fast approaching the end game, England going for the American model and the Celts for a Scandinavian model....oh aye , i know which model i prefer.

Because, of course, no Welsh person ever bought into Thatcherism, did they, you smug dullard twat?

 

[ViolentPanda]

So where will I head for political asylum, north or west?

Anywhere trampie isn't, I'd recommend!

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

CHANNEL 4 NEWS NOW

Report on Colin Traynor

 

[treelover]

Yes, major report, shocking, where is civil society, etc on all this, when people die in other suspect circumstances, they are all over the issue..

 

[Delroy Booth]

This whole thread is a terrible indictment of this country, the middle class wannabes and their trade unions have got to take a close look at themselves, police, teachers etc wanting more and more and expecting the low paid and poor to pay for it through taxes is a disgrace, its the me me me society, politically England is lost, its policies are so right wing the Celts will soon need binoculars to see them, the country has not recovered since the English voted Thatcher in appealing to peoples greed, if England doesn't pull back we will be fast approaching the end game, England going for the American model and the Celts for a Scandinavian model....oh aye , i know which model i prefer.

I love the idea that there's any meaningful ethnic difference between those living in England and those in Scotland Ireland and Wales. Thousands of years worth of conquest, pillage, rape and colonism put an end to that I'm afraid.

Also, statements like the one underlined is pure Thatcherism. I think you're a little bit confused.

Hopefully a racially pure Celtic State will settle these internal contradictions before the union breaks up. Racial seperatism ftw!

 

[treelover]

please take these debates elsewhere, surely this thread is for the dead and those on the brink..

 

[Delroy Booth]

that's my last word on the topic, promise.

 

[krink]

just listened to radio 5 the parents of a lad who died after being declared fit to work. absolutely heartbreaking. these bastards in government should pay for this.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I love the idea that there's any meaningful ethnic difference between those living in England and those in Scotland Ireland and Wales. Thousands of years worth of conquest, pillage, rape and colonism put an end to that I'm afraid.

Also, statements like the one underlined is pure Thatcherism. I think you're a little bit confused.

Hopefully a racially pure Celtic State will settle these internal contradictions before the union breaks up. Racial seperatism ftw!

There's a reason why the phrase I most often refer to him by is "Welsh Tory cunt".

 

[ViolentPanda]

just listened to radio 5 the parents of a lad who died after being declared fit to work. absolutely heartbreaking. these bastards in government should pay for this.

Although we can be absolutely sure that they won't, not least because, despite all the barracking in the House of Commons between the parties, they're all the fucking same and will guard each others' arses as assiduously as they guard their own over shite such as this.

 

[krink]

Although we can be absolutely sure that they won't, not least because, despite all the barracking in the House of Commons between the parties, they're all the fucking same and will guard each others' arses as assiduously as they guard their own over shite such as this.

I agree with you. When I say 'pay for it' I mean they should pay in the same way that poor lad did.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I agree with you. When I say 'pay for it' I mean they should pay in the same way that poor lad did.

Or with something slower, more subtle and infinitely more mentally and physically-anguishing, if I have my way.

 

[yield]

Really? How simple sided you all see the world. People die all the time, it's a fact of living. People commit suicide for stupid reasons and you can't pin the fact that peoples benefits were cut on their deaths. Shame, I thought Urban75 was based on facts not unsubstantiated twaddle.

Have you bothered to read the thread and the news articles posted?

Are you here to talk or annoy? If you just want a rise out of people please go away.

 

[treelover]

DYPT, not the thread for debating, please take it to another thread, this is for remembrance, etc..

 

[audiotech]

Really? How simple sided you all see the world. People die all the time, it's a fact of living. People commit suicide for stupid reasons.....

I would hope that you don't ever suffer "suicide headaches". Hey, and they stopped my benefits too. How "stupid" eh?



Cluster Headaches.

Dr. Seymour Diamond, of the Diamond Headache Clinic in Chicago, says he has seen cases go to extremes: "The only suicides I've ever seen in any headache patients have been men who have had clusters.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/PainManagement/story?id=126909#.UGw2Qk2pRSg

 

[Frumious B.]

In no specific date order and taken from links I had saved. There are possibly many others out there and the list will need updating as more are affected.

Frankie, I wonder if Michael Meacher would appreciate a copy of your list?

Labour MP Michael Meacher has launched a campaign against Atos after one of his constituents who had been ruled fit for work died of a seizure...“I am trying to gather all the cases I can, because this is a massive injustice. I am prepared to campaign for months or years until this is addressed properly.”

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/atos-scandal-benefits-bosses-admit-1344278

 

[ViolentPanda]

Really? How simple sided you all see the world. People die all the time, it's a fact of living. People commit suicide for stupid reasons and you can't pin the fact that peoples benefits were cut on their deaths. Shame, I thought Urban75 was based on facts not unsubstantiated twaddle.

W/R/T motivation for suicide, in lieu of a "suicide note", inquests (pro forma for suicides) don't base their findings on "unsubstantiated twaddle". The information that inquests use is often from post mortem examinations, and from police investigation. They don't deal in "unsubstantiated twaddle". We're talking about weight of evidence indicative of the primary motivation being related to their benefits claims.

Your username indicates that you rate a person by their ability to pay tax. A fine example of twaddle-based thinking.

 

[Frumious B.]

VP, don't indulge it with a reply. Just report the troll. I have.

 

[Frankie Jack]

Frankie, I wonder if Michael Meacher would appreciate a copy of your list?



www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/atos-scandal-benefits-bosses-admit-1344278

I'm sure people have sent him details of those people listed on that thread. There are quite a few people I know in contact with him.

I've been searching an upating more articles recently for sending to MSPs debating WRA reforms up here in Scotland. I'll send to Michael Meacher too once I've got meself organised.

Haranging Disability Works UK today for their involvement in the Work Program.

Disability Works UK is a not-for-profit consortium of eight national disability charities that have come together to provide tailored employment support to disabled people.
Disability Works UK has secured a number of sub-contracts to deliver the Work Programme; the Government's employment initiative aimed at supporting long-term unemployed and disabled people into work.
Through the Work Programme, Disability Works UK provides tailored support and training, including interview practice, skills development, help with job applications, CV writing and in-work support. We also work with employers to ensure that people are well supported in their roles.

These are the same DPOs that have joined together to form Disabilty Rights UK even though DRUK website looks seriously cheap and amature.

Sickens me too that this same DRUK has been chosen to be part of the Governments Disability Action Alliance while milking the system for all it's worth.

DWP silent on which organisations were tipped off about new ‘alliance’

So much to keep an eye on.. not enough days in the year.

 

[BigTom]

http://www.wrexham.com/news/man-jobcentre-threatens-set-alight-12699.html

Yesterday a man in Wrexham threatened to set fire to himself st the job centre after disability benefits were stopped.

On my phone and that link didn't work well so I've not read it through

 

[ViolentPanda]

VP, don't indulge it with a reply. Just report the troll. I have.

It's not so much indulgence of a troll as publicly-rebutting the writings of an idiot, so that anyone else with similar delusions has the opportunity to stop and think before spouting similar horse-shit.

 

[Frankie Jack]

It's not so much indulgence of a troll as publicly-rebutting the writings of an idiot, so that anyone else with similar delusions has the opportunity to stop and think before spouting similar horse-shit.

Thankfully this asshat seems to have been eradicated from the boards.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Oh, just made the connection with this thread. I booted him off for spamming his website, saw the reported post but it led nowhere because I'd previously and independently wielded the spam cleaner.

A spammer with appalling views and dodgy world outlook, who'd've thunk it?

 

[BigTom]

I think this is the right thread for this, though it's not about a specific individual

Fear of fitness to work tests driving disabled patients to suicide, say 6% of GPs:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...patients-to-suicide-say-6-of-gps-8197432.html

Six per cent of doctors have experienced a patient who has attempted - or committed - suicide as a result of “undergoing, or fear of undergoing” the Government's fitness to work test.

A survey of over of 1,000 GPs across the UK by ICM also found that one in five had at least one disabled patient who had thought about suicide because of the test, which is aimed at assessing whether people claiming incapacity benefit are fit to work.

The survey, highlighted by Exaro, the investigative website, also found 14 per cent had patients who had self-harmed as a result of the test.

I want to comment on this survey/story but this is no surprise to any of us. I don't understand how those who support the wca from a position of thinking it's helping disabled people or that we have to have tough tests to weed out fraudsters can see this kind of thing and not question it. I know the tory scum don't care, fine with "useless eaters" killing themselves, it's those in the centre ground I don't get.

 

[Turboprop]

I think I might be going to join this list quite soon. I have been growing increasingly depressed over this week. Been having nightmares too, and crying a lot. People like Mark Hoban have no idea how what they say affects people like me. It makes me feel that I am worthless and useless and there is no place for me on this earth. They probably don't care either. I feel right now that I don't belong in society any more and there is no worthwhile future. As well as the depression, I am dealing with a huge amount of pain, and I wish it would just go away. I just don't feel I can handle life any more

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I think I might be going to join this list quite soon. I have been growing increasingly depressed over this week. Been having nightmares too, and crying a lot. People like Mark Hoban have no idea how what they say affects people like me. It makes me feel that I am worthless and useless and there is no place for me on this earth. They probably don't care either. I feel right now that I don't belong in society any more and there is no worthwhile future. As well as the depression, I am dealing with a huge amount of pain, and I wish it would just go away. I just don't feel I can handle life any more

Ah Turbo. Really wish you weren't feeling that way, but don't be doing anything like that please.

 

[BigTom]

I think I might be going to join this list quite soon. I have been growing increasingly depressed over this week. Been having nightmares too, and crying a lot. People like Mark Hoban have no idea how what they say affects people like me. It makes me feel that I am worthless and useless and there is no place for me on this earth. They probably don't care either. I feel right now that I don't belong in society any more and there is no worthwhile future. As well as the depression, I am dealing with a huge amount of pain, and I wish it would just go away. I just don't feel I can handle life any more

It's Hoban, ids and the rest who are worthless, not you. Do you have anyone irl you can/are talking to about how you're feeling?