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So what we actually have are massively-stretched and often voluntary services being stretched to breaking point by their attempts to fill the gap left by the state and the money-chasing charities, and with each extra month of "austerity" more of those hard-pressed services fail, either because demand is too heavy to manage, or because volunteers burn out under the caseload.
Not just volunteers, either. Professionals are finding themselves increasingly stretched, to a point where our professional and ethical obligations are increasingly impossible to maintain in the face of increasing demand (both in terms of numbers and severity), and reductions in support and funding. I am going to have to bale out of this game soon, because I simply cannot afford to continue sustaining the increasing costs of living while my salary remains frozen for three years so far, and with at least another 2 to come.

And I'm not the only one. I despair of how bad things are going to get.
 
Not just volunteers, either. Professionals are finding themselves increasingly stretched, to a point where our professional and ethical obligations are increasingly impossible to maintain in the face of increasing demand (both in terms of numbers and severity), and reductions in support and funding. I am going to have to bale out of this game soon, because I simply cannot afford to continue sustaining the increasing costs of living while my salary remains frozen for three years so far, and with at least another 2 to come.

And I'm not the only one. I despair of how bad things are going to get.

Oh, I totally agree that professionals too are at breaking-point, I was elucidating on the voluntary sector because if nothing else it highlights the bankruptcy of the whole "big society" schtick, which should never have been about using volunteers in order to minimise costs, but should have been about a secondary tier of committed people supporting the professionals.
 
I don't want to come over all Cassandra about this, but I think this withdrawal of support from society's most vulnerable is going to reap the whirlwind, and it may well be that dramatic increases in rates of suicide are not the worst problem we shall see.

the result won't be to blame the system, it will be to blame the person with the condition, even if they had sought help. the result will be another case where the public is told to fear everyone with the condition. to be more prejudiced against those with it, and leading to more and more people being harassed or otherwise abused for being ill or just negleted cause the gvt assumes people have a support network that just isn't there. @bakunin used to use a MH drop in center in plymouth. people's families were disowning them on being informed of a diagnosis, cause of the fear and prejudice.
 
the result won't be to blame the system, it will be to blame the person with the condition, even if they had sought help.
Yes. I fear that we are losing a great deal of the much-needed progress we'd made in destigmatising mental illness over the last few years.

the result will be another case where the public is told to fear everyone with the condition. to be more prejudiced against those with it, and leading to more and more people being harassed or otherwise abused for being ill or just negleted cause the gvt assumes people have a support network that just isn't there. @bakunin used to use a MH drop in center in plymouth. people's families were disowning them on being informed of a diagnosis, cause of the fear and prejudice.
They won't need to be "told" to fear - that will come naturally. We are creating a society (again) where a wedge is being driven between those who can manage to cope on their own resources, or access help easily, and those who can't. Inevitably, the former will tend to perceive the latter as a threat - as we ARE being told to do, with the rhetoric of deserving vs undeserving poor - while the self-fulfilling prophecy of marginalising the mentally ill will ensure that desperate, unsupported people will behave in increasingly desperate and frightening ways...which will simply reinforce the stereotypes and stigmas and so it goes around again.

If my piss weren't boiling enough at what this government is doing to people today, the thought of how long it will take to unravel the harms they are doing in the long-term just in terms of perception of people with disabilities, mental health problems, or chronically workless lifestyles is definitely going to do the job...
 
IMO, There are certainly sections of the media that do deliberately promote fear of mental illness. that's where the 'told to fear' comes from. they have a fucking field day telling us every time someone loopy does somethin horrendous. giving the idea that all are dangerous
 
IMO, There are certainly sections of the media that do deliberately promote fear of mental illness. that's where the 'told to fear' comes from. they have a fucking field day telling us every time someone loopy does somethin horrendous. giving the idea that all are dangerous
Yeah, I hadn't really thought about the "ghoul factor". You're right :(
 
Maybe a crunch will come next year - when they stop paying ESA to those waiting for their appeal. That should cause a sharp increase in all manner of 'incidents', many of them fatal.

I made a similar prediction on the "who predicts a riot?" thread. There's a lot of welfare changes kicking in in 2013, plus the latest round of "austerity" cuts on local authority and NHS services, plus the ever-increasing burden on charities causing those charities to withdraw entirely from voluntary provision.
 
IMO, There are certainly sections of the media that do deliberately promote fear of mental illness. that's where the 'told to fear' comes from.

It sells papers, they just substitute the 'Reds under the bed' for some other form of misunderstood and probably harmless bogeymen who then become the Devil Incarnate. There's an old saying in American TV news which is 'If it bleeds, it leads' so they love stories about mentally or psychologically damaged people doing dreadful things while seldom even mentioning that the other 95% of us are no more of a risk than anyone else.

they have a fucking field day telling us every time someone loopy does something horrendous. giving the idea that all are dangerous

Same reason, media outlets exist to boost circulation and profits. If it were more profitable to give a balanced view instead of selling more papers when they mix somebody's blood with the printer's ink then they'd do that instead.
 
Putting on my Delphic oracle hat, I'm just wondering how long it will be before some poor bastard with physical or mental health issues decides that enough is enough, and goes out to bag themselves a politician's head for the mantlepiece.

I have already made the decision to take that option over suicide when I reach the point I simply can't cope. Though I'll actually aim for taking a baseball bat to IDS's knees.
 
Swordstick? Poison pellet umbrella?

Well, I'm looking at it from a point of view of actually being able to get near enough to finish the job, so the umbrella would only work on a day where rain was predicted - you'd look a tad odd carrying an umbrella on a clear summers' day (do you have those in Edinburgh ;) ) - and swordsticks are hard to get hold of and very expensive. A blow to the knee (or the neck) with a weighted stick, though, will have the same effect as an ASP, with the added advantage of no-one questioning why a person with a limp would be carrying a walking stick on a clear summers' day.
 
Well, I'm looking at it from a point of view of actually being able to get near enough to finish the job, so the umbrella would only work on a day where rain was predicted - you'd look a tad odd carrying an umbrella on a clear summers' day (do you have those in Edinburgh ;) ) - and swordsticks are hard to get hold of and very expensive. A blow to the knee (or the neck) with a weighted stick, though, will have the same effect as an ASP, with the added advantage of no-one questioning why a person with a limp would be carrying a walking stick on a clear summers' day.
Not that you've put any thought into this at all...;)
 
Anyone got a spare walking stick?

Shit, if you'd posted this earlier, I could have nabbed one for you. Was in hospital today and someone had left one, but they may have come back to reclaim it :D

Have some kind of walking pole that himself's never used but it's not got a very wide bottom (that's assuming I didn't bin it)
 
Shit, if you'd posted this earlier, I could have nabbed one for you. Was in hospital today and someone had left one, but they may have come back to reclaim it :D

Have some kind of walking pole that himself's never used but it's not got a very wide bottom (that's assuming I didn't bin it)

I've only got a walking frame. Which is suitably heavy, but not easy to swing accurately enough, there could be collateral damage.
 
I think some of these have been covered before but got this from graun CIF
Benefit bureaucrats Atos killed my father, says 13-year-old boy
http://www.scotsman.com/news/health...lled-my-father-says-13-year-old-boy-1-2610249
Blinded, half-paralysed man dies day after Atos stop his benefits
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/11/disabled-man-dies-after-atos-stops-benefits-chris-grayling/
A CYSTIC fibrosis sufferer recovering from a double lung transplant has had her benefits cut by 85 per cent.
Louise Davidson, 20, who has struggled with the condition since birth, had been receiving £130 a week. She must now survive on £21.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/health/lung-transplant-patients-benefits-cash-1499539
DAVID Cameron has been urged to look again at disability benefit changes after a Northumberland man committed suicide when told he would lose all support.
Wansbeck MP Ian Lavery told a stunned House of Commons that he had received a copy of a suicide note written by a housebound 54-year-old man in his constituency who took his own life after a battle with the Department for Work and Pensions.
http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-...objectid=32464423&siteid=61634-name_page.html
Get ready for work: what woman who needs constant care was told
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/oct/03/work-woman-care
Atos Disability Benefits Row: Epileptic Colin Traynor's Death Blamed On Stress Of Being Found 'Fit For Work
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...nefits-colin-traynor-epilepsy-_n_1917042.html
Man with terminal brain cancer told he's 'fit for work'
http://politics.co.uk/news/2012/11/12/man-with-terminal-brain-cancer-told-he-s-fit-for-work
Ex-RAF serviceman from Lincoln kept alive by portable machine has benefits stopped
http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk...ive-portable/story-17573783-detail/story.html
Atos scandal: Benefits bosses admit over half of people ruled fit to work ended up destitute
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/atos-scandal-benefits-bosses-admit-1344278
New GP survey shows Government welfare test is pushing vulnerable people to the brink
http://www.rethink.org/how_we_can_h...ional_press_releases/new_gp_survey_shows.html
MSPs hear UK welfare reforms 'force blind man to beg'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-19639952
Birmingham dad dies of heart condition after being ruled 'fit for work'
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/birmingham-dad-dies-of-heart-condition-187961
Benefits appeal woman Cecilia Burns from Strabane has died
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northe...ine&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Fury as Tory welfare police order kidney dialysis patient Paul Mickleburgh back to work
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/health/fury-as-tory-welfare-police-order-857001
Demand for fairer benefits tests as two die
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/demand-for-fairer-benefits-tests-as-two-die-1.1085915
Stress of Tory benefits tests killed our dad, family claims
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new
 
I think some of these have been covered before but got this from graun CIF
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Thanks for posting all of those. It's not pleasant, but it's worth passing onto anyone who might not have come across it.
 
A slightly more general statistic is in the news today:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21141815

The number of people taking their own life in the UK rose "significantly" in 2011, latest figures from the Office for National Statistics have shown.
Some 6,045 people killed themselves in 2011, an increase of 437 since 2010.
The highest suicide rate was among men aged between 30 and 44. About 23 men per 100,000 took their own lives.
On average, across both sexes, 11.8 people per 100,000 population killed themselves in 2011, up from 11.1 people the previous year.
The suicide rate among middle-aged men aged 45 to 59 was also high, increasing from 21.7 deaths in 2006 to 22.2 deaths per 100,000 people in 2011.
Male suicide rates increased in the 1980s, with the average rate among all age groups peaking at 21.9 deaths per 100,000 population in 1988.
After more than a decade of falling suicide rates in males, the rate increased significantly between 2010 and 2011, from 17 to 18.2 deaths per 100,000 population.
 
I'm not surprised to see an increase in male suicide rates. Suicide is one of my specialist areas of interest in my work, and it's a complex - but still taboo - topic, influenced by many factors and not lending itself particularly well to study.

Part of that problem is that coroners are very reluctant, unless there is categorical evidence to demonstrate that someone has deliberately attempted suicide in full possession of their faculties, to ascribe suicide as a cause of death. I am not saying this is wrong, but I suspect there are a lot of cases where death by misadventure has been given as the cause even though the death was, if not completely deliberately due to suicide in the legal sense, was clearly a product of some level of emotional distress amounting to suicidality.

The other aspect that is often overlooked is about cause. It is probably true to say that only a small minority of suicides can be directly attributable to, for example, struggles with the benefits system, but there will be many, many more where, while one may not be able to put hand on heart and say "The DWP/government/ATOS killed this person", it wouldn't be unreasonable to acknowledge that the difficulties they were experiencing contributed to a level of emotional distress which, at the very least, increased the risk of their attempting suicide. Of course, in typical black/white political logic, I am sure that those responsible for the system that create such distress would immediately argue that, since it was not possible to point the finger directly at their activities as a cause, they can completely disown any responsibility for it.

On a larger scale, the correlation between rates of (in this case) male suicide and economic depression do paint a rather compelling picture, but of course we have to be careful not to automatically assume that correlation implies causation. Nonetheless, suicide is a leading cause of death of young men, and we would be remiss as a society if we failed to ask some very searching questions as to why so many of ours are killing themselves.

As part of my practice, I work as a counsellor in a doctors' surgery, and consistently between 80% and 100% of my caseload is people who are currently engaged in the ATOS/DWP/tribunal process. Many of them are very matter-of-fact about it, but hearing their stories can be difficult, when one considers how much of the day-to-day difficulty they are experiencing are avoidable, on top of whatever problems their disabilities, mental health issues, or life circumstances are causing them. I haven't lost anyone yet, but I fear that it is only a matter of time. Too frequently, I hear clients saying "I really don't know where to turn, and I often wonder if I (or my family) would not be better off if I was dead."

Those are stark words, and, in the unlikely event of my having to attend a coroner's inquest, they are words I would have to repeat. But even there, it would be perfectly possible for Mr Duncan Smith, or Cameron, or Osborne to say "ah, but you can't say that it was our policies that killed that person". They'd be right: I couldn't. But I know that, if one of those people were to kill themselves, it is likely that the brutal and unfair treatment that had been meted out to an already vulnerable person would be a very significant straw that had broken the camel's back.

And it is hard for me, as a therapist, to hear those words and to some extent not feel inclined to agree: if I were having to endure the catalogue of injustice that these people relate, and which has been endlessly repeated both here and on Facebook groups, benefits advocacy sites, etc., I would be seriously wondering if it were worth all the distress and aggravation. It makes me furious - that, as someone whose job it is to try and help people make sense of their lives, I am hobbled by the fact that others are actively doing everything in their power to make the lives of such people as meaningless, arbitrary, and miserable as possible.

I don't imagine any one individual within that system sets out to drive people to suicide, or would not be somewhat distressed to learn that one of their cases had killed themselves. But the system as a whole does operate that way, and the "groupthink" that inevitably arises as an artefact of such systems will, at some level, be saying "It's their choice, it's their responsibility, and if they want to kill themselves that's their business - one less case isn't going to make our job worse."

Until these organisations (and politicians) can recognise their own accountability for the degradation in the quality of people's lives which is manifesting as increasing rates of suicide, nothing will change, and people will continue to kill themselves. I have no idea what will change that.

End of rant.
 
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