Libya - civil unrest & now NATO involvement

[Casually Red]

Tell that to that British cop who was blown up the other day . If the war in Ireland is over MI5 wouldnt be investing 15% of ther overall resources - man power , funding and equipment- in a massive HQ in county down while Britian is already bogged down elsewhere.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6188255.stm

http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2010/apr/04/the-bloody-rise-of-the-dissident-ira/

Over my arse

 

[Casually Red]

l
and the lesson of that experience leads you to condemn the people of Libya to a lifetime under a police state, to side with the source of their oppression and call them "fucks" and "bums" when they resist. I was right you are a massive massive wanker.

so at long last we have finally established you support this revolt . Its like pulling teeth but we got there in the end .

 

[dylans]

so at long last we have finally established you support this revolt . Its like pulling teeth but we got there in the end .

What the fuck are you on about. I have always supported the revolt against Gaddafi. Iht doesn't follow that I support Western intervention however. I opposed Western intervention in Iraq but if the Iraqi people had overthrown Hussein I would be cheering them on. You I suspect would be supporting Saddam, calling the Iraqi revolutionaries "bums and fucks" and telling us what a good guy Saddam was

 

[Casually Red]

western imperialist aggression and the revolt are inextricably linked . They are allies and have been from the outset . The revolt has been sponsored before it even kicked off by all manner of parties from Saudi to Whitehall and firmly egged on by them after it did. It is CIA trained and directed . Its leadership have openly called for western intervention from the outset in the form of a no fly zone- which has always been a euphemeism for war- which has been granted . The revolters have also called on the west to arm the revolt , which has not been openly granted as yet but may wll be happening in the background with Saudi and Egyptian assitance . From the very outset its cheerleaders have engaged in a shameless propaganda campaign making all sorts of absurd hysterical claims to ensure that imperialist aggression occured with the minimum protest in the west . To say one supports the revolt but not the imperialist aggression the revolt has called upon , wholly relies upon , which has been actively courted from the outset , and which has been part and parcel of it from the outset , is completely absurd .
At least the right wing arguments about the expense of bombing Ghadaffi make some sense .

 

[dylans]

To say one supports the revolt but not the imperialist aggression the revolt has called upon , wholly relies upon , which has been actively courted from the outset , and which has been part and parcel of it from the outset , is completely absurd .

Did you oppose the invasion of iraq?

Does your opposition to the invasion of Iraq mean you support Saddam?

Would you be cheering him on if today Saddam was around and crushing a rebellion?

Would you be calling the Iraqi rebels "fucks" and "bums" and cheering Saddam on as he killed his own people?

 

[Crispy]

western imperialist aggression and the revolt are inextricably linked . They are allies and have been from the outset . The revolt has been sponsored before it even kicked off by all manner of parties from Saudi to Whitehall and firmly egged on by them after it did. It is CIA trained and directed.

Would you apply the same analysis to the other recent uprisings/revolts in North Africa/Middle East?

 

[twentythreedom]

The druggie has gone to watch the Qatari state tv channel. Bless.

Yeah, it was quite interesting actually. I'm watching football now.

Good. Don't let the door hit you on your way out. And don't come back.

I'm back.

Meanwhile, in Libya, some stuff has been happening, hasn't it?

 

[weltweit]

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Meanwhile, in Libya, some stuff has been happening, hasn't it?

Not much actually.

The rebels have been pushed back from near Brega back towards Ajdabiya again

Not seen any rebel mortars again since last week, perhaps all the ammo got blown when their arms dump went up.

The rebels have been training men over a two week period, but they only have 3 rifles per 20 men.

Apparently there is an oil tanker in Tobruk looking to fill up and that may bring millions into the rebels coffers. But there is only one load in the pipes from the oil fields as Gaddafi has blown up the pumping equipment which means the rebels can't get to any more of their oil. The pumping station would take a month or more to repair and then would need defending.

 

[weltweit]

Oh and there was a demonstration in Benghazi complaining that NATO were not doing enough. At least that is what the english language banners were saying.

 

[ernestolynch]

Lol. DivCot the Brit Unionist claiming that his Orange twats have 'won the war' in Ireland and Dylan, Trix etc the effete Trots 'supporting' Al Qaeda and Royalists like they supported the Fascists in WW2. Never change their spots...

 

[TruXta]

Supportin fascists in WW2? You drunk again?

 

[ernestolynch]

Sober as a judge you liberal puritan presbo freak.

 

[TruXta]

Liberal, puritan, no, freak why not, but wtf does presbo mean?

 

[ernestolynch]

You're a teetotaller liberal Brit Nat puritan trot swine like. A bean if you will.

 

[TruXta]

Teetotaller? Tell that to my liver.
Liberal? Never voted in my life, don't intend to start now. Besides, don't pretend that word even means anything when you use it. Just say cunt, easier that way.
Brit Nat? Ain't British you cock, let alone a nationalist.
Trot? Nah, don't think so.
Swine? I like bacon.

 

[TruXta]

Could it mean presbyterian?

 

[goldenecitrone]

Supportin fascists in WW2? You drunk again?

That was the IRA, wasn't it?

 

[TruXta]

They did?

 

[Casually Red]

no , they didnt . They were breifly offered german assistance though . Just as they had been during the first one .

 

[Casually Red]

heh heh heh

 

[Casually Red]

The serbs are showing him a lot of support , seen here in Belgrades old city the other day . 60,000 serbs have been hacking the fuck out of the rebels facebook page .Libya and Titos Yugoslavia forged very close ties within the non aligned movement back inn the day . Libya was the only arab league member to oppose the bombing of Serbia by NATO and the first country in the world to respond to it with humanitarian and economic aid .

And fucking massive and chaotic crowds showing their support for Ghadaffi in Tripoli that cant be dismissed as paid actors . Along with the announcement that elections and more press freedoms are to be implemented by Ghadaffi .

 

[Casually Red]

I'll hopefully be taking my hols in Beograd yet again this summer so must remember to bring my Libya/Ireland pin badge

iimagine these will be quite fashionable

 

[twentythreedom]

You're a teetotaller liberal Brit Nat puritan trot swine like. A bean if you will.

Stop it, ern, throwing the insults around is boring. Like you calling me a "druggie"... well, yeah, and?

I was tempted to join in and slag you off, but the issue of how much of a total dick you are was evidently settled long ago, before I got here, so I won't bother because there's no need.

Start a seperate thread for your pathetic name-calling and attempted put-downs, it might be quite entertaining, for a minute or two.

Seriously, grow the fuck up

Right, I'm gonna watch some more AJE.

 

[Casually Red]

with Comrade Tito back in much happier times . Not a Trot in sight .

 

[ernestolynch]

Trots really are drecks. Would any of them like to explain why Libyan life expectancy at 74 is so high compared to the rest of Africa?

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Ern and Casually Red should get a room together.

 

[ernestolynch]

You truly are a master of debate.

 

[Spion]

This thread's turned into a mixture of Stalinist shrine and nuthouse. Utterly bizarre

 

[elbows]

A rebel press conference, with english transcript, that involves a lot of bitching about NATO, and then it goes pearshaped because someone starts shouting 'you killed our children and families'!

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/04/t...t-major-general-abdulfatah-younis-gave-today/

 

[Spion]

Would any of them like to explain why Libyan life expectancy at 74 is so high compared to the rest of Africa?

So, not as high as the well known socialist paradises of Morocco, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and further afield Argentina, Chile, the USA.

It proves fuck all, you fucking dunce