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I've heard this story about having to wait weeks for a phone a number of times anecdotally. Some questions spring to mind though, such as when was this? What was the comparable wait time for a phone in countries that had a private system? Couldn't this just be down to the technology of the era?

Genuine questions, by the way. I'm completely ignorant on the issue of British Telecom pre-privatisation.

According to a mate who worked for BT back when it was part of the GPO, the delays were down to (IIRC) three different sections of technical staff being involved in activating a line - one at the exchange, one who dealt with the (green) street junction box, and one who actually installed the phone in your house/office.
 
Brendan "I'm a Marxist really" O'Neill and other self-styled 'libertarians' get their arses kicked (again).
Twitter tyrants and social justice warriors beware. The libertarians are coming for you | Jason Wilson

I found this comment highly amusing.
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The Authoritarianism of the 'SJW & Twitter Tyrants' is being taken on by Libertarians such as O'Neill, Hoff Sommers & Yiannopoulos, rightly so.

Brendan O'Neill is left wing, Christine Hoff Sommers is a 'real' Feminist & Milo Yiannopoulos is gay. Supportive of these causes but not to the Authoritarian extremes as they point out.

So your attempt to smear them as Anti left/feminist/gay is wholly misplaced.

You'd have to be ignorant of political ideologies to claim O'Neill is "left-wing" but so what if Yiannopolous is "gay"? Does that excuse his misogyny?
 
The “movement” includes professional anti-feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers, and celebrity culture warriors like Breitbart writer Milo Yiannopoulos and Firefly actor Adam Baldwin, of late a supporter of Gamergate.

Totally unlike his brother Alec.

btw, the new 'New Right' would love to ignite culture wars here, which haven't really taken off like in the U.S, except maybe EDL, etc.
 
Brendan "I'm a Marxist really" O'Neill and other self-styled 'libertarians' get their arses kicked (again).
Twitter tyrants and social justice warriors beware. The libertarians are coming for you | Jason Wilson

The phoney libertarians haunt the conspiracy movement terribly. Apparently the global elite is SOCIALIST!!! Who knew?

Every bit as likely to be causing the BAD THINGS as jesuits, secret societies etc. is THE LEFT!!! They are especially fond of blaming things on the Fabians - people who have never struck me as anything more than sellouts and bores.

What doesn't compute about the idea that the left are running everything is the actual fact that the left run next to fuck all. We don't even have regulated buses anymore.

And that thing about human caused climate change being a lie used to tax and control us - even if it is, doesn't make it any less an actual thing. And the facts are that next to fuck all has happened to reduce emissions since the Rio summit (1992?)

Right libertarianism is as much a simplistic echo chamber/jerk circle as any school of thought I've come across, it pollutes analysis and exposure of genuine conspiracy at least as much as the lefts too-common refusal to engage with it at all.
 
An interesting post from another board:

I've spoken of Spiked before, but Spiked is just one element. I knew Claire Fox and her clique when I was at Uni. The entire same clique are now still working together through orgs like institute of ideas, sense about science etc.

All these orgs are seemingly modern, NonProfit and independent but in fact they are all interrelated whereby they invite each other on their panels and pretend they dont know each other. Its a complete career reinforcing & media brand enhancing process.

The whole clique has connections with Frank Furedi who osensibly is a left wing academic but actually all the orgs are financed by big corporates particularly those in pharma and GM crops.

The fact that people loke Fox gets to pad her living on radio 4 shows how far they have reached. A little research and you will constantly surpriosed how the same names turn up - its a shakedown racket but a strangely nasty one.
 
Not white enough, gender ratio is spot on though

There's siginifcant non-white Libertarians so that ratio is not wrong. In fact in the Tory party the Libertarian wing contains just about all its non-white MPs.
 
Can you give this lot a kicking while you're at it? They look relatively harmless, but if you tangled with them I think the one furthest left would stab you while the one furthest right sat on you.

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Hesitate to admit to this....but is anyone else watching...er..."Only Connect"?
 
They are all making their way up the greasy pole, they are Oxbridge, aren't they?

The fat one, who i don't think is fat anymore, is often on Sky News.
 
According to a mate who worked for BT back when it was part of the GPO, the delays were down to (IIRC) three different sections of technical staff being involved in activating a line - one at the exchange, one who dealt with the (green) street junction box, and one who actually installed the phone in your house/office.

i, coincidentally, happen to know an answer to the question you are answering here VP. As a 'one man installer' it was my responsibility to hoist and connect a 'dropwire' from the 'distribution pole' top to the subscribers home/office. Once that was complete, the 'instrument' (ie telephone) was fitted according to the subscribers desires, often in the hallway or window bottom, but basically anywhere the sub' wanted it fitting. Sometimes this would involve many yards of internal cabling, at no additional cost for the installation, which was a fixed price of about £45 if memory serves. Once the house install was complete it was also my task to attend the "green street junction box" (official description 'cabinet') to interconnect the distribution side of the underground cabling to the exchange side of the underground cabling to provide a dial tone service to the subscriber. It was also often my task to attend to the 'main distribution frame' (MDF) connection at the appropriate telephone exchange, completing the installation by fitting a pair of fuses on the 'D' side of the MDF.

It is possible that other telephone areas operated a slightly different regime, with the exchange work being the responsibility of dedicated staff, but the concept of a 'one man installer' was actually national in the UK, as was the pricing structure.

When we owned the telephone system (under the umbrella of the GPO) it was a system that sought to present a human face, and its necessary electronic complexity involved significant planning,(ie, in the social democratic sense), and i well remember being involved in the cabling of entire council estates (prior to them being built), because the ethos of the public service aspect of the telephone network had understood and planned for a telephone to be fitted into every single tenancy. It was dispiriting to see that once those estates had reached completion, much of that planning and investment went to (short term) waste - mainly because the council tenant demographic in the 1970s often could not afford the install costs of a telephone, or the rent, which wasnt insignificant.

All those decades of public investment for public purposes was ultimately stolen from the public by Thatcher and her gangsters in the tory privatising frenzy of the 1980s. The rich sucked it all up, and continue to benefit from a comprehensive telecommunications network that really ought to be back in the hands of the state - but with one critical difference to the old model of the GPO days - when its renationalised, as it must be, lets have it under actual workers control, rather than suffering under the heel of batteries of lickspittle capitalists and accountants.
 
he was on Only Connect, with his dad, as a team of bee keepers!,

in other news, he is rapidly going up the political greasy pole, editor of Conservative Home, on Sky News paper review, etc.
 
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