"Digital driving licence"

[PTK]

Or switch to a supplier who’ll take something else. Mine ask for a utility bill or bank statement.

Well, I needed the phone urgently, as I was expecting phone calls and/or text messages from the hospital.
I was shocked when I was asked for a passport or a driving licence. I proffered my bus pass, which I happened to have on me, and the shopworker was not going to accept it, but then another shopworker intervened. I cannot understand why I would be asked for a photo ID to change the SIM card, and I was nor prepared to be asked. I found this an unnecessary hurdle.

 

[PTK]

94% and rising.

If councils can give people airfryers

Can they? When and where was this?

 

[gosub]

Can they? When and where was this?

More than 6,000 air fryers to be given to pensioners for free

'Since we got it, we’ve not used the gas oven at all'

www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk

 

[xenon]

A friend bought it in their name.

So your friend gave their name and address, rather than you?

 

[Serge Forward]

Await the early morning knock at the door...

"Yes officer?"

"It's come to our attention that your phone is repeatedly switched off, you don't have any 'loyalty' apps and your location isn't switched on"

 

[MickiQ]

More than 6,000 air fryers to be given to pensioners for free

'Since we got it, we’ve not used the gas oven at all'

www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk

This is awesome, it demonstrates Out of The Box thinking that is so sadly lacking in the provision of social services.

 

[Aaronf]

Would you have to take a new photo? You're lucky if you've had the same photo or maybe 1 change since you passed but if you passed as soon as you could, you're eventually going to start looking a bit different to how you look now? I look slightly different from when I was 18, maybe enough for someone looking to question there's a small chance it's a different person.

Who or how decides whether the photo on photo ID is legitimately that person? Someone using individual discrepancy could say no when it is the same person or say yes when it isn't?

 

[cesare]

Some employers require people they are recruiting to show a passport.

All employers are required to show they have established that employees have the right to live and work in the UK (which sometimes includes but isn't limited to production of a passport).

Sorry brogdale I hadn't read #50

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Would you have to take a new photo? You're lucky if you've had the same photo or maybe 1 change since you passed but if you passed as soon as you could, you're eventually going to start looking a bit different to how you look now? I look slightly different from when I was 18, maybe enough for someone looking to question there's a small chance it's a different person.

Who or how decides whether the photo on photo ID is legitimately that person? Someone using individual discrepancy could say no when it is the same person or say yes when it isn't?

We could just use DNA and be done with it.

 

[Aaronf]

For instance a former friend used to work for an employment agency in the early 2010's and that was interesting. Other countries have all sorts of different documentation/papers proving ID, well it seems that way. She said people would turn up with different things with just a photo on and whatever else and it was as plain as day it wasn't the same person. They'd obviously argue it was them and what do you do? Some were refused, some were accepted and some led to accusations of racism etc.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Would you have to take a new photo? You're lucky if you've had the same photo or maybe 1 change since you passed but if you passed as soon as you could, you're eventually going to start looking a bit different to how you look now? I look slightly different from when I was 18, maybe enough for someone looking to question there's a small chance it's a different person.

Who or how decides whether the photo on photo ID is legitimately that person? Someone using individual discrepancy could say no when it is the same person or say yes when it isn't?

Photo driving licences are only valid for 10 years, then you have to renew it with an updated photo.

Renew your driving licence

Apply online to renew your 10-year driving licence, full or provisional - cost, payment methods, documents and information you need

www.gov.uk

 

[Puddy_Tat]

(edited out - realised i'd answered the wrong question)

 

[Aaronf]

Photo driving licences are only valid for 10 years, then you have to renew it with an updated photo.

Renew your driving licence

Apply online to renew your 10-year driving licence, full or provisional - cost, payment methods, documents and information you need

www.gov.uk

Thanks, I knew I often ask questions first and then realise there's probably an obvious answer after

 

[Aaronf]

(edited out - realised i'd answered the wrong question)

Wow, gone are the days where you just gave your provisional to the examiner and let them sort it with your purple one arriving a few weeks later!

 

[Pickman's model]

Like proving who you are?

That's not stringent. It's a very basic requirement for being allowed into a position of trust.

Next time we meet pls bring your passport and mcc membership card

 

[The39thStep]

No more than you lose yourself if you lose your wallet now.

It’s a great idea from a convenience aspect. I’ve no problem with ID cards either. I’ve always been a bit envious of my European friends who can travel around internationally without passports, just by showing their ID cards.

The people who are against them are all tossers and wronguns who incessantly bang-on about the state, and anything that annoys those types, I’m all in favour of anyway.

I haven't a problem with ID cards either however I think your European friends, unless they have settled status or who have applied for settled status , will have to use a passport to visit you in the UK.

 

[PR1Berske]

I have to say I like the 'Clipboard Wielders' phrase

Every forum has some!

 

[Pickman's model]

Every forum has some!

Yeh the sort of bastards who force you to come out with an opinion

 

[weltweit]

Alien arrives on planet, takes a prisoner.
In pocket finds a small piece of plastic with the individuals face on it. Huh?
Che?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I have everything on my phone….

Good luck with that. Hope it never turns out to be an obviously, catastrophically shit idea or anything.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Next time we meet pls bring your passport and mcc membership card

You don't need the membership card, just the horrible tie.

 

[Pickman's model]

You don't need the membership card, just the horrible tie.

Anyone can buy the horrible tie

If you go by ties, spy served in the guards

 

[SpookyFrank]

Anyone can buy the horrible tie

And there's me buying tickets for Lord's like a mug.

 

[Pickman's model]

And there's me buying tickets for Lord's like a mug.

Yes

 

[NoXion]

Perhaps I missed it in the linked article, but I fail to understand what specific function is fulfilled, or what problem is supposedly being addressed by digitising driving licences, or at least any that is not already adequately addressed by the current setup.

I could maybe see the use in adding a little NFC doodad like what my passport has, but all I can see with a completely digital implementation is a massive new attack surface for scammers everywhere, a bounty for data harvesters across the globe, and yet another digital doohickey that can stop working due to factors entirely outside of the holders' control. Like just a couple of days ago I tried using some coupons in Tesco using their app, but I couldn't do a damn thing because of the shitty reception, and ended up paying full price for my shopping.

That was annoying enough, now imagine how incredibly frustrating it could get if one was relying on the digital ecosystem for something truly important like proving one's right to work. That could end up costing someone an employment opportunity.

It looks like a solution in search of a problem.

 

[freshapple]

Good luck with that. Hope it never turns out to be an obviously, catastrophically shit idea or anything.

It’s more secure than having everything in your wallet tbh

 

[Spymaster]

I haven't a problem with ID cards either however I think your European friends, unless they have settled status or who have applied for settled status , will have to use a passport to visit you in the UK.

They do now, but not for travel within the EU.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Perhaps I missed it in the linked article, but I fail to understand what specific function is fulfilled, or what problem is supposedly being addressed by digitising driving licences, or at least any that is not already adequately addressed by the current setup.

We don't ask this question. Obviously everything is better on an app, even if this directly contradicts lived experience, because obviously it is.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It’s more secure than having everything in your wallet tbh

My wallet never runs out of battery and doesn't need 4G signal to work.

 

[Spymaster]

You don't need the membership card, just the horrible tie.

Nope. You need to show the card to get in. Anyone can buy the horrible ties.