Laurence Fox. The twat.

[ginger_syn]

Patronising is when you talk down to someone.

I know, the slightly patronising tone comes from the hipster cafe are a real thing. The asumption i didnt know is slightly patronising.

 

[Santino]

Slightly patronising i said, calm down.

Slightly fuck off then.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

The customers in the photo are hardly 'trendy' - just normal people of all ages.

One of them does look suspiciously like Laura Kuenssberg though.

 

[chilango]

used by ER, social workers, teachers, community workers, vegans,

Trendy lefty wankers

...what was the point again?

I'd certainly agree that my experience of renting whilst on benefits fucking sucked.

 

[two sheds]

Slightly patronising i said, calm down.

yes dad

 

[Shechemite]

see my last post, the culture wars, imported from the U.S are now clearly here, and much of the left are spending most of their time fighting them. I have just had the most appalling PIP interview, interogated like a criminal, shown no compassion whatsover, and likely to lose hundreds of pounds a month, and looking around for allies on the left, at next LP CLP i am going to ask the audience do they know where the Atos/Capita testing centres are, the name and presence strike horror in disabled and sick people, i expect most won't have a clue, yet these places and staff have dominion over the former's lives. The Hostile Environment for Disabled, etc, has already disappeared from the front page.

Forgive me if I don't see this individual as a key priority at the moment.

Have you ever thought that the fate of ‘disabled, etc’ isn’t dependent on what is/is not posted on urban?

 

[Shechemite]

If your parents are famous actors it certainly gets you a foot in the door but if you have no talent, your career isn't going far.

Lily Allen

 

[ginger_syn]

Slightly fuck off then.

 

[ginger_syn]

yes dad

Mum

 

[equationgirl]

Have you ever thought that the fate of ‘disabled, etc’ isn’t dependent on what is/is not posted on urban?

I know I've pointed that out to treelover on occasion. Especially because urban is probably one of the most supportive places for those with all sorts of disabilities I've found, and the ATOS thread really does help people through various assessments and appeals.

 

[SpineyNorman]

To be fair, I've been in the blue moon a few times and while I haven't paid too much attention to the noticeboard I don't doubt that what tl is saying is true. It is quite trendy too.

 

[maomao]

Surely hipsters are youngsters who move from places like Sheffield to be annoying in up and coming areas of London. If they do have any hipsters up there they're probably just visiting their mums.

 

[isvicthere?]

Surely hipsters are youngsters who move from places like Sheffield to be annoying in up and coming areas of London. If they do have any hipsters up there they're probably just visiting their mums.

Whereas in Dalston the parents visit the hipsters, who probably have to tolerate it for financing purposes.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Surely hipsters are youngsters who move from places like Sheffield to be annoying in up and coming areas of London. If they do have any hipsters up there they're probably just visiting their mums.

Or at University

 

[isvicthere?]

Apols if this has already appeared on the thread.....

Laurence Fox's guide to being an instant right-wing celebrity twat

INTERESTED in trading C-list status for being an instant right-wing hero and truth-teller? I’ve done it, and so can you by following these tips:

www.thedailymash.co.uk

 

[butchersapron]

This stuff, it's just him. It's shit. Imagine going to that site daily.

 

[scifisam]

I know, the slightly patronising tone comes from the hipster cafe are a real thing. The asumption i didnt know is slightly patronising.

Why do you think I was aiming anything in my post at you? I didn't mention you or anything you'd said. And I wasn't assuming that anyone didn't know that hipster cafes exist.

Thanks for giving a real example of being patronising with your "calm down" comment though.

 

[ginger_syn]

Why do you think I was aiming anything in my post at you? I didn't mention you or anything you'd said. And I wasn't assuming that anyone didn't know that hipster cafes exist.

Thanks for giving a real example of being patronising with your "calm down" comment though.

Thats ok.

 

[krtek a houby]

I get the "hipster" cafe idea. The overpriced cereal and fancy coffees and beards etc. But a "liberal" cafe sounds like something dreamt up by Trumpist types, "the cafe is a hotbed of socialism" sort of nonsense. But (in my experience) anything that isn't the Trump or current GOP way of thinking is liberal/socialist/Marxist/far left and so on. There's no distinguishing between ideologies when talking to the cult members.

 

[Manter]

He is primarily a London stage actor and while I haven’t seen him on stage myself, by all accounts he is good at his job. Please don’t take that as an excuse for his repugnant views, but it’s often a convenient narrative that artists who are awful people can’t really posses any talent. I’ve known enough actors to have learned that acting talent and a pleasant personality don’t necessarily go together.

He certainly didn’t charm me in his Question Time appearance but to right wingers he may we’ll embody all that has been claimed in that post. It wasn’t meant as an endorsement but to deny horrible people any talents is to underestimate their power.

No, he’s an actor, he hasn’t been on stage for about 5 years. He’s done most and is most well known for TV. (Edit- just googled reviews- ‘clunky and unsubtle’)

 

[chilango]

The "liberal cafe" is, IME, a very American thing.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

From yesterday's popbitch:

 

[Reno]

No, he’s an actor, he hasn’t been on stage for about 5 years. He’s done most and is most well known for TV. (Edit- just googled reviews- ‘clunky and unsubtle’)

He primarily was a stage actor for two decades of his career and if you fancy cherry picking reviews via quick google till you hit a bad one, don't ignore the good ones:

No, he’s an actor, he hasn’t been on stage for about 5 years. He’s done most and is most well known for TV. (Edit- just googled reviews- ‘clunky and unsubtle’)

He had a theatrical career for nearly two decades (and yes, theatrical actors are actors too).

The last theatrical appearance I can find was just over two years ago and this doesn’t strike me as a bad review:

The Real Thing review: Laurence Fox gives a witty performance

The clever tricks of Tom Stoppard's 1982 drama return, with Laurence Fox in the lead role

www.standard.co.uk

Neither does this:

The Patriotic Traitor review – tragedy and treason with Tom Conti and Laurence Fox

Featuring two strong central performances, this story of Philippe Pétain and Charles de Gaulle’s relationship is fascinating but covers too much ground

www.theguardian.com

If you dig around you’ll find bad reviews on most actors. You don’t sustain a career on the stage by continuously being crap.

Hopefully he won’t return to the stage any time soon though as most of the theatre community appears to condemn his comments. I don’t think many directors will want to cast him any time soon.

 

[Peter Chadwick]

1. Two growing and increasingly vile irrelevant groups are engaged in a pointless ‘culture war’ - , emptied out of politics, agency and meaning’ but increasingly pulling others into its orbit.
2. On one side are the liberal left. Small in actual number, but heavily over represented in the media, academia etc with a politics barfed up/synthesised from the decline of organised labour and the ideological collapse on the left which has accompanied economic liberalisation.
3. On the other side are the alt right barfed up from a similar class milieu. A rag bag of localists, libertarians, paleoconservatives, right-wing populists, secular conservatives, and white nationalists specifically intent on engaging the above category.
4. Fox is an important new embodiment of the above category. A human face. Posh. Recognisable. Charismatic. A gathering presence.

Both sides militate against serious political organisation, or any real confrontation with the powerful forces that actually dominate our society. Both sides insistence on mediating/controlling language etc is fundamentally disabling.

Yes I think this is a good summary. Fox is being described as a C list actor who people hadn't heard of before he stated attacking the PC brigade.. but actually I had heard of him before, both for his acting and for the fact that he was married to Billie Piper. By contrast I hadn't heard of Meghan Markle at all until she hitched up with Harry and started spouting her political views.

The spat on Question Time was a good example of the kind of bear pit our society has become.. Fox has become a controversialist saying things for effect.. his stuff about the sikhs was well out of order , then the lady on QT planted by the BBC to stir things up , making fake claims about racism. All pretty ugly and now Question Time which used to be a proper TV debate is now more like the Jerry Springer show.

 

[Peter Chadwick]

He primarily was a stage actor for two decades of his career and if you fancy cherry picking reviews via quick google till you hit a bad one, don't ignore the good ones:

He had a theatrical career for nearly two decades (and yes, theatrical actors are actors too).

The last theatrical appearance I can find was just over two years ago and this doesn’t strike me as a bad review:

The Real Thing review: Laurence Fox gives a witty performance

The clever tricks of Tom Stoppard's 1982 drama return, with Laurence Fox in the lead role

www.standard.co.uk

Neither does this:

The Patriotic Traitor review – tragedy and treason with Tom Conti and Laurence Fox

Featuring two strong central performances, this story of Philippe Pétain and Charles de Gaulle’s relationship is fascinating but covers too much ground

www.theguardian.com

If you dig around you’ll find bad reviews on most actors. You don’t sustain a career on the stage by continuously being crap.

Hopefully he won’t return to the stage any time soon though as most of the theatre community appears to condemn his comments. I don’t think many directors will want to cast him any time soon.

Is this the McCarthy witch hunt of our time? Fox has made some crass comments on twitter.. this is not a crime.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Yes I think this is a good summary. Fox is being described as a C list actor who people hadn't heard of before he stated attacking the PC brigade.. but actually I had heard of him before, both for his acting and for the fact that he was married to Billie Piper. By contrast I hadn't heard of Meghan Markle at all until she hitched up with Harry and started spouting her political views.

The spat on Question Time was a good example of the kind of bear pit our society has become.. Fox has become a controversialist saying things for effect.. his stuff about the sikhs was well out of order , then the lady on QT planted by the BBC to stir things up , making fake claims about racism. All pretty ugly and now Question Time which used to be a proper TV debate is now more like the Jerry Springer show.

what ‘fake claims of racism’?

 

[Peter Chadwick]

what ‘false claims of racism’?

The ones that say that Harry and Meghan ducking out of their Royal duties is "all about racism". The ones that say newspapers filing their pages with crap about Megahns baby bump is all about racism. The ones that say that tabloids printing stuff about Mr Markle dissing his daughter is all about racism. all that crap , its all over the internet and that lady spouting on QT and others on breakfast telly.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

The ones that say that Harry and Meghan ducking out of their Royal duties is "all about racism". The ones that say newspapers filing their pages with crap about Megahns baby bump is all about racism. The ones that say that tabloids printing stuff about Mr Markle dissing his daughter is all about racism. all that crap , its all over the internet and that lady spouting on QT and others on breakfast telly.

So you’re say saying that you don’t think there’s a racist element to any of that?

 

[Treacle Toes]

Yes I think this is a good summary. Fox is being described as a C list actor who people hadn't heard of before he stated attacking the PC brigade.. but actually I had heard of him before, both for his acting and for the fact that he was married to Billie Piper. By contrast I hadn't heard of Meghan Markle at all until she hitched up with Harry and started spouting her political views.

The spat on Question Time was a good example of the kind of bear pit our society has become.. Fox has become a controversialist saying things for effect.. his stuff about the sikhs was well out of order , then the lady on QT planted by the BBC to stir things up , making fake claims about racism. All pretty ugly and now Question Time which used to be a proper TV debate is now more like the Jerry Springer show.

Oh hi lozza!


Seriously get in the bin.

In a week where QT admitted selecting a pro tory audience, and that 'lady' an academic WOC with a name that you can't bring yourself to use. 'Burn the Witch' ! Controversialist? You mean latest RentAGob, ignorant, and not doing as well as he'd like so goes the 'shock for money' route.

I knew I should have stopped reading at 'PC brigade'.

 

[Reno]

The ones that say that Harry and Meghan ducking out of their Royal duties is "all about racism". The ones that say newspapers filing their pages with crap about Megahns baby bump is all about racism. The ones that say that tabloids printing stuff about Mr Markle dissing his daughter is all about racism. all that crap , its all over the internet and that lady spouting on QT and others on breakfast telly.

I think you may be confusing Urban with 4chan. Kindly fuck off.