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Laurence Fox. The twat.

Great to see the modern fashion of conflating disagreement/different viewpoint with silencing in full effect here.

I can see how people can feel shut down sometimes, but the sting of having a viewpoint challenged isn't the same as being threatened in the way that a lot of people (especially women -see gamergate etc) get totally monstered on the Internet, and I'm not convinced about counter-monstering being the best way forward.

I can disagree with you - it doesn't mean I hate you, and my disagreement doesn't negate you.
 
he was on question time apparently. I don’t know I haven’t seen it. and on the back of that, doing the usual circuit. That’s legitimate to discuss.

Yeah. I'm just not sure why. I thought he must have been in 1917, but I seem to be mistaken on that count.
 
Smokeandsteam



Oh hell no.

He's a mediocre actor/singer & song writer who's been doing the rounds of breakfast TV for years, pimping his divorce from BIlly Piper and getting nowhere. Because, well he's not that memorable/good.

He's one of many privileged kids of rich luvvies who had opportunity but got expelled from private school, drifted doing whatever, used nepotism to get into RADA and still feels hard done by.

This 20 minutes of fame comes because he's happy to be the latest, revisionist, cartoon, old colonial in a younger body, panderer to White-Supremacists. Rent-A-Gob...happy to take the spotlight by being a grade A, ill-informed,fucking offensive arsehole.

He has the charisma of a maggot-ridden chicken leg.

Hardly anyone recognised him before 3 days ago.

The gathered presence is because he has aligned himself with the other pathetic cunts like him. Granted, they number a few.
He's someone to be pointed at and laughed at. I'd never heard of him until this thread. Let him crack on with his absurd nonsense tbh. Yes, the fact he gets gigs like question time is a very poor reflection of the BBC, but that's been true for years now. Their absurd idea of 'balance'. Possibly the greatest effect of his latest idiocy is that more people now know about the Sikhs who fought in WW1.
 
He's someone to be pointed at and laughed at. I'd never heard of him until this thread. Let him crack on with his absurd nonsense tbh. Yes, the fact he gets gigs like question time is a very poor reflection of the BBC, but that's been true for years now. Their absurd idea of 'balance'. Possibly the greatest effect of his latest idiocy is that more people now know about the Sikhs who fought in WW1.

I still quite can't fathom his point there. Taken in full context, he did actually acknowledge that the soldiers concerned actually existed.

Maybe historical accuracy should be playing second fiddle to the idea of momentarily surprising a few people in your audience. :confused:
 
60 posts in 13 hours suggest your personal opinion is out of step and some people do want to talk about this dollop of right wing shit. Anyway, you've made your point now. If the topic is of no interest to you, there is no need for you to post on this thread again.
Bit strong no?
 
Smokeandsteam



Oh hell no.

He's a mediocre actor/singer & song writer who's been doing the rounds of breakfast TV for years, pimping his divorce from BIlly Piper and getting nowhere. Because, well he's not that memorable/good.

He's one of many privileged kids of rich luvvies who had opportunity but got expelled from private school, drifted doing whatever, used nepotism to get into RADA and still feels hard done by.

This 20 minutes of fame comes because he's happy to be the latest, revisionist, cartoon, old colonial in a younger body, panderer to White-Supremacists. Rent-A-Gob...happy to take the spotlight by being a grade A, ill-informed,fucking offensive arsehole.

He has the charisma of a maggot-ridden chicken leg.

Hardly anyone recognised him before 3 days ago.

The gathered presence is because he has aligned himself with the other pathetic cunts like him. Granted, they number a few.
He is primarily a London stage actor and while I haven’t seen him on stage myself, by all accounts he is good at his job. Please don’t take that as an excuse for his repugnant views, but it’s often a convenient narrative that artists who are awful people can’t really posses any talent. I’ve known enough actors to have learned that acting talent and a pleasant personality don’t necessarily go together.

He certainly didn’t charm me in his Question Time appearance but to right wingers he may we’ll embody all that has been claimed in that post. It wasn’t meant as an endorsement but to deny horrible people any talents is to underestimate their power.
 
He is primarily a London stage actor and while I haven’t seen him on stage myself, by all accounts he is good at his job. Please don’t take that as an excuse for his repugnant views, but it’s often a convenient narrative that artists who are awful people can’t really posses any talent. I’ve known enough actors to have learned that acting talent and a pleasant personality don’t necessarily go together.

He certainly didn’t charm me in his Question Time appearance but to right wingers he may we’ll embody all that has been claimed in that post. It wasn’t meant as an endorsement but to deny horrible people any qualities is to underestimate their power.

The old 'halo effect', innit?
 
Possibly the greatest effect of his latest idiocy is that more people now know about the Sikhs who fought in WW1.

Twitter tells me he hasn't had the balls to engage or defend getting his arse well and truly handed back to him on this point. Hopefully we''ll get a bit more winter sunshine over the next few weeks and he'll dry back up. Chances are Piss Morgan will platform him just in case though. The best insult i've seen today described him as a 'vagina dehydrator' :D
 
yer man's had one vaguely leading role in a programme which many people aren't aware of. what he says may make the news but tbh so much other utter bollocks fills the pages of the press these days just because something's reported doesn't make it interesting. and surely among the criteria of what we share is that it should be interesting: and ideally entertaining. and this is neither.
Never heard of the bloke before this me.
 
Twitter tells me he hasn't had the balls to engage or defend getting his arse well and truly handed back to him on this point. Hopefully we''ll get a bit more winter sunshine over the next few weeks and he'll dry back up. Chances are Piss Morgan will platform him just in case though. The best insult i've seen today described him as a 'vagina dehydrator' :D

He did know, at least at the time of making his comments (I'm amazed he didn't know before). Which just makes the whole thing weirder.
 
In his tv series he comes across as the 'woke' detective who goes off to work in eastern european country in his holiday to paint some deserving christian wall or other

turns out to be a right wing cunt :)
 
Bit strong no?
I think it was appropriate given the repeated attempts to shut down the debate just because a poster didn't like it.

And I think this is a newsworthy thread and the amount of subsequent debate would seem to back that assertion.
 
Well, I don't think insultingthis Fox guy on a little corner of the Internet (great as it is), that he'll never see, is of much use. I wouldn't expect editor to approve of such dodgy stuff anyway. I think the wider discussion of how we got to obediently giving our free time to such distractions might be a more productive conversation.

They say jump we say 'how high'?
We foxes have to stick together.
 
its a youtube special run by a greying ex kipper ( new culture forum) who has the arse about most things & they discuss political correctness gone mad- Larry is fed proto racist/ sexist tropes to which he eagerly responds and for eg calls out the hypocracy of black actors getting a leg up whilst he has no discernable source of income. its utter shit.If you enjoy rod liddle and the the spectator, you will fucking love it

Thanks for that, you’ve just saved me 27mins of my life Id never have got back.
 
Tbf I think Marty has a point. It's a bit of a mystery why we're paying this guy so much attention.
I thought he was in that big film that just came out, but it's like he's just this guy from an ITV drama spin-off a really long time ago. I know at our age time gets a little sketchy, but it was really quite long ago.

Are you thinking of Morse rather than Lewis? It finished at the end of 2015 and is repeated constantly. It's a good show regardless of whether or not he's a twat.

The mystery is why he was invited on question time, but once he was on there he became newsworthy.

In his tv series he comes across as the 'woke' detective who goes off to work in eastern european country in his holiday to paint some deserving christian wall or other

turns out to be a right wing cunt :)

He's meant to be a notably conservative and prudish posh boy who trained as a priest, not woke in the slightest.
 
He is primarily a London stage actor and while I haven’t seen him on stage myself, by all accounts he is good at his job. Please don’t take that as an excuse for his repugnant views, but it’s often a convenient narrative that artists who are awful people can’t really posses any talent. I’ve known enough actors to have learned that acting talent and a pleasant personality don’t necessarily go together.

He certainly didn’t charm me in his Question Time appearance but to right wingers he may we’ll embody all that has been claimed in that post. It wasn’t meant as an endorsement but to deny horrible people any talents is to underestimate their power.

Maybe he is good at his job, maybe he isn't. I haven't seen any of his work.

But

I suspect that his family and schooling have played a far, far greater role in his career development than any measure of talent.
 
Who was it (Reno?) who predicted Piers Morgan weighing in? Here it is, right on cue, Morgan doing the "I'm not as much of a right wing bastard as those other right wing bastards" thing he's been doing for a while and Laurence Fox saying some astonishingly stupid things. I can't even pick out a quote because it's all awful.

 
Maybe he is good at his job, maybe he isn't. I haven't seen any of his work.

But

I suspect that his family and schooling have played a far, far greater role in his career development than any measure of talent.
Acting families and dynasties are common. If your parents are famous actors it certainly gets you a foot in the door but if you have no talent, your career isn't going far.
 
Acting families and dynasties are common. If your parents are famous actors it certainly gets you a foot in the door but if you have no talent, your career isn't going far.

Perhaps. But talent is not the key factor in the success of the likes of this "thoroughly splendid chap".

i've posted this before, but:

67% of British Oscar winners and 42% of British
BAFTA winners attended an independent school,

Once an aspiring actor enters the profession, barriers
for individuals from lower socio-economic backgrounds
persist. Working class actors report being typecast
into certain parts and are not able to sustain the long
periods of unemployment or free work required on
the way to the top.
 
Perhaps. But talent is not the key factor in the success of the likes of this "thoroughly splendid chap".

i've posted this before, but:
Thanks for the information, but I already wrote a post on why that is, a couple of pages back. The main reason the same as why most people who go to university come from privileged backgrounds, studying acting is expensive. Even audition for acting schools costs money.
 
There are a few more like Anne-Marie Duff, James McAvoy, Dev Patel and Daniel Kaluuya, but the main reason why there are so few working class actors now is because studying acting somewhere like RADA is expensive, it’s like going to university. It’s a matter of cutting grants, etc, which older working class actors still benefited from. . On the whole a classical acting training is still required here and it gives British actors a versatility US actors often lack. That’s why you see so many British actors getting cast in US movies and TV.


The film critic Danny Leigh is big on this, he helped organise the BFI's Working Class Heroes' event
 
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